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Obey your flesh and descend into darkness

How can we know anything about anything


To try to explain truth to him who loves it not is but to give him more plentiful material for misinterpretation. George Macdonald

Do we have to make a choice between science and the Bible?

NO!

That is NOT where the problem is, but that is what everyone seems to want to talk about.

Take science as an example. How can we know anything about the created material world around us?

How can we know anything from what we can see using natural sciences?

We all see the same things in the material world, but we don't come to the same answers.

Why is that?

How can we know anything about the Bible and what it teaches? Every person believes different things about the Bible and how it should be read.

Why is that?

Same scientific facts. Different answers.

Same Bible. Different answers.

Why is that?

The true question is this: How do we come to our answers that we get from what we can see through science or what we can read in the Bible?

How do we think about what we see using science or what we read in the Bible?

How do we analyze what we have seen and read?

How do we interpret what we have seen and read?

We use logic, but logic always has a foundation. Jesus talked about building on the Rock. That Rock is Jesus Christ. He is the true foundation. There are also the false foundations of the ungodly.

An example might help.

Question: Why do you believe in evolution?

Answer: Because my science teacher told me that evolution is scientific fact.

Question: Why do you believe your science teacher?

Answer: because he agrees with the textbook he assigned us to read.

Now, we have asked, "Why?" twice.

If we continued to ask, "Why?" we would come down to the foundation of this person's thoughts.

When we get down to the foundations, there are no more questions that can be answered. So where to the foundations come from?

There are three possibilities.

  1. things that we make up, pulled from the air
  2. demonic lies
  3. divine revelation

Question: Why do you believe in creation?

Answer: Because God revealed this to me. He spoke to me through the Bible and gave me His faith so that I could believe Him.

See how quickly we got to the foundation. This is a belief that has a foundation that is solid and that cannot be moved.

In reality, the things that we make up, that are pulled from the air, are actually from demons and all the lies of demons spring from the prince of demons, Satan. So these are one and the same.

Divine revelation comes from the Almighty, Creator, God, Jesus Christ. So there are only two choices, but how do we know there are only two choices? Because God has revealed this truth to us.

The question then is how do we tell the difference between the revelation that comes from God and the lies of Satan?

The answer is that everyone who sincerely wants to do the will of God will know.

Jesus said, "If you really want to obey God, you will know if what I teach comes from God or from me"

The rejection of the revelation that comes from God is not an intellectual problem. It is a moral problem.

Jesus said, "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and you shall find; knock, and it shall be opened to you: For everyone who asks receives; and he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks it shall be opened." *

Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone? Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent? If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to those who ask him? Matthew 7:7-11 *

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. You can set the truth before someone, but you can't make anyone believe those things that they don't want to submit to. They have to want to obey God.

How frequently it is brought to our attention that nothing good can be done if the will is wrong! Reason alone fails to justify itself. Richard M. Weaver

Jesus said, "You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free" (John 8:32)

"If we are not prepared to buy the truth at the cost of our own humbling we shall not receive it"

Lies appear to have no price upon them. They seem cheap and they abound everywhere. But for the truth there is always an obvious price to pay.

"[God] has set a day when He will judge all the world's people with fairness. And He has chosen the man Jesus to do the judging for Him. God has given proof of this to all of us by raising Jesus from death" (Acts 17:31).

"There is a judge for the one who rejects Me [Jesus] and does not accept My words; that very word which I spoke will condemn him at the last day" (John 12:48)

That also stands for every person who speaks the utterances of Jesus. When we hear them, we hear Jesus Christ, and we either accept or reject. Every person who follows Jesus Christ is commanded to only speak His utterances and not their own.

"When we love others, we know that we belong to the truth, and we feel at ease in the presence of God" (1 John 3:19)

Ravi Zacharias did two open forums in a university. On the second night, one man told him that he had brought two Atheists in the night before who said that the arguments presented were so strong that they could not contend with them, but they were going to remain Atheists because that is what they prefer to be true.

In another case of just listening to an unbeliever and drawing out his reasoning, the unbeliever finally came to his foundations.

They turned out to be assumptions that were pulled from the air. When asked why he believed his basic assumption, the unbeliever looked startled and blurted out, "I guess I'm making the whole thing up." It was quite a revelation to him since he hadn't even known that he had any assumptions. However, he decided to remain an Atheist because he didn't want God to rule over him.

God does speak through His Word, through His Bible.  God wrote the Bible and speaks to us through the Bible.

If a person tries to read the Bible and leans on his or her own understanding, that person is being double-minded and will not receive any revelation from the Lord.  If a person continues to seek the face of God, that person will receive revelation of the Scripture, but that person must realize that no part of Scripture is on any private interpretation.  The natural mind of man can greatly twist Scripture.  Most twisting of Scripture is done by sincere Chistians.  When we think we know anything, we don't know as we ought to know.

When a person receives revelation from God, this is not circular reasoning.  It is not unreasonable.  It is logical and rational to receive revelation from God.

When a scoffer claims that it is irrational to believe that God is revealing, the scoffer is, in fact, being irrational.  The scoffer is irrational and the logical error that the scoffer is making is known as the fallacy of the universal negative.

When a person receives revelation from God through the Scripture, that revelation will always be exactly what the Scripture says.  The person receiving the revelation will be aware of God's presence.  The Holy Spirit may bring other related Scripture to mind, lessons from nature to mind, or teachings from other Christians to mind as they related to what God is revealing.  Suddenly, something becomes very clear.  The veil of the sinful fleshly nature is pulled away for a moment and spiritual vision and hearing are improved.

The Bible tells us that it is the Word of God and without error.  When God speaks to us through this part of the Word and we believe it, this is not circular reasoning. 

Here is some circular reasoning:

Is there a God?  Yes.
How do you know?  Because the Bible says so.
How do you know the Bible is correct?  Because it was inspired by God.

That is circular reasoning.  This is not circular reasoning:

  • Is there a God?  Yes.
  • How do you know?  Because I have met with Him and He leads me moment by moment.

This is not circular reasoning:

  • How do you know the Bible is correct?  Because God has personally told me this.
  • How did God show you?  He revealed it to me using the Bible.

 It would be equally valid to say that He revealed it to you using the Bible, my conscience, a still small voice, prophecy in several Church services, a word of wisdom, a word of knowledge, a dream, a vision, and creation if that is the case.  It is no more circular to say that God showed you something using the Bible than it is to say that a professor showed you something using a textbook.

Of course, the scoffer can always say that he or she doesn't believe you, and that is no surprise that a scoffer would scoff.  The real point is that you don't believe them.  You believe God instead of them.  It is not your job to convince them of God.  Your job is to tell the scoffer of your experience.  Their job is to believe.  If they fail to believe what God has told you and you have told them the truth by the Spirit of God, then they are not refusing to believe you.  They are refusing to believe God.  You see, when you speak by the Spirit of God, it is God speaking through you.  It is not you who is speaking.  You are nothing.  You are just the instrument that God is using at the moment.

If the scoffer claims to know that you have not heard from God, however, then that scoffer is being irrational.  They are claiming to know your inner thoughts and spiritual experiences.  That is actually an insane thing to do.  It is irrational.

When any person reads the Bible, God speaks to them through the Bible.  The Bible is not a god, but the true God does speak to every person who reads the Bible.  The problem is that so many people who read the Bible are blinded by their own theologies so that they cannot see what is written, nor can they hear God's voice.

For those who have actually stood in the presence of God seeking His face, we know that God speaks.  God directs.  He mainly speaks through the Body of Christ in the present.  We know that no person can so much as sincerely say that Jesus is Lord except by the Holy Ghost speaking through the person.  God has restored prophecy to the Church.  He has restored the word of knowledge and the word of wisdom.  He has restored the office of the apostle and the ministry of the prophet.  God speaks through all of these with great authority and accuracy.

There are false prophets and false apostles and false gifts, but the false does not make the true any less true.  It is possible to discern the real from the false.  God has promised that if we seek HIM, we will find Him.  Whoever has a willing heart will find the real and the genuine and will not be deceived by the false.




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