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Romans 8
v 18-23 Manifestation
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Romans 8:18-23, The Full Maturity, Redemption Of Our Bodies, And Deliverance Of Creation From Bondage.
How can we know anything about anythingTo try to explain truth to him who loves it not is but to give him more plentiful material for misinterpretation. George Macdonald Do we have to make a choice between science and the Bible? NO! That is NOT where the problem is, but that is what everyone seems to want to talk about. Take science as an example. How can we know anything about the created material world around us? How can we know anything from what we can see using natural sciences? We all see the same things in the material world, but we don't come to the same answers. Why is that? How can we know anything about the Bible and what it teaches? Every person believes different things about the Bible and how it should be read. Why is that? Same scientific facts. Different answers. Same Bible. Different answers. Why is that? The true question is this: How do we come to our answers that we get from what we can see through science or what we can read in the Bible? How do we think about what we see using science or what we read in the Bible? How do we analyze what we have seen and read? How do we interpret what we have seen and read? We use logic, but logic always has a foundation. Jesus talked about building on the Rock. That Rock is Jesus Christ. He is the true foundation. There are also the false foundations of the ungodly. An example might help. Question: Why do believe in evolution? Answer: Because my science teacher told me that evolution is scientific fact. Question: Why do you believe your science teacher? Answer: because he agrees with the textbook he assigned us to read. Now, we have asked, "Why?" twice. If we continued to ask, "Why?" we would come down to the foundation of this person's thoughts. When we get down to the foundations, there are no more questions that can be answered. So where to the foundations come from? There are three possibilities.
Question: Why do believe in creation? Answer: Because God revealed this to me. He spoke to me through the Bible and gave me His faith so that I could believe Him. See how quickly we got to the foundation. This is a belief that has a foundation that is solid and that cannot be moved. In reality, the things that we make up, that are pulled from the air, are actually from demons and all the lies of demons spring from the prince of demons, Satan. So these are one and the same. Divine revelation comes from the Almighty, Creator, God, Jesus Christ. So there are only two choices, but how do we know there are only two choices? Because God has revealed this truth to us. The question then is how do we tell the difference between the revelation that comes from God and the lies of Satan? The answer is that everyone who sincerely wants to do the will of God will know. Jesus said, "If you really want to obey God, you will know if what I teach comes from God or from me" The rejection of the revelation that comes from God is not an intellectual problem. It is a moral problem. Jesus said, "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and you shall find; knock, and it shall be opened to you: For everyone who asks receives; and he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks it shall be opened. Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone? Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent? If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to those who ask him? Matthew 7:7-11 You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. You can set the truth before someone, but you can't make anyone believe those things that they don't want to submit to. They have to want to obey God. How frequently it is brought to our attention that nothing good can be done if the will is wrong! Reason alone fails to justify itself. Richard M. Weaver Jesus said, "You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free" (John 8:32) "If we are not prepared to buy the truth at the cost of our own humbling we shall not receive it" Lies appear to have no price upon them. They seem cheap and they abound everywhere. But for the truth there is always an obvious price to pay. [God] has set a day when He will judge all the world's people with fairness. And He has chosen the man Jesus to do the judging for Him. God has given proof of this to all of us by raising Jesus from death" (Acts 17:31). "There is a judge for the one who rejects Me [Jesus] and does not accept My words; that very word which I spoke will condemn him at the last day" (John 12:48) That also stands for every person who speaks the utterances of Jesus. When we hear them, we hear Jesus Christ, and we either accept or reject. Every person who follows Jesus Christ is commanded to only speak His utterances and not their own. "When we love others, we know that we belong to the truth, and we feel at ease in the presence of God" (1 John 3:19) Ravi Zacharias did two open forums in a university. On the second night, one man told him that he had brought two Atheists in the night before who said that the arguments presented were so strong that they could not contend with them, but they were going to remain Atheists because that is what they prefer to be true. In listening to an unbeliever and drawing out his reasoning, the unbeliever finally came to his foundations. They turned out to be assumptions that were pulled from the air. When asked why he believed his basic assumption, the unbeliever looked startled and blurted out, “I guess I’m making the whole thing up.” It was quite a revelation to him since he hadn't even known that he had any assumptions. However, he decided to remain an Atheist because he didn’t want God to rule over him. We wait for the manifestation, the removal of the veil of the fleshly nature and the redemption of our bodies.
The quote is below, but it's easier to understand when it's in plain 21st century English:
Romans 8:18-23 I, Paul, can see that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that shall absolutely be seen in us when the veil of our flesh is removed. For the whole hearted expectation of the creation itself is waiting for the unveiling of the matured sons of God. For the creation and all the creatures were put into bondage to the present futility, pain, and suffering that you can observe. Creation didn't go willingly but went because of the one who, seeing the vision of hope, put them into bondage. The reason the creation has this great expectation is that it knows something: Creation itself will also be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the mature sons of God. For we know that the whole creation groans and is going through birth pains right up to the present. It's not only the creation that is going through these birth pains, though. We are feeling the same pain, we who have the firstfruits of the Spirit. Yes, we groan within ourselves. We groan because we are waiting to become mature sons of God and we are waiting to be placed into ruling positions of authority, which is the same thing as saying that we are waiting for the redemption of our bodies.
Let that sink in.
Romans 8:18-23 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed [Apocalypse, Unveiling] in us. For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation [Apocalypse, Unveiling] of the sons [huios, mature sons] of God. For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope, Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption [Eastern adoption is the placing of a mature son into a ruling position], to wit, the redemption of our body.
Adam and Eve sinned. Since God had set them into a ruling position over all of the creation, all of creation "was made subject to vanity" with them. Now, we wait for the unveiling, "the redemption of our bodies." When our bodies are redeemed, then the whole creation will be delivered, too. We, being mature, will be set into ruling positions in the Kingdom of God. The immature will not rule and reign with Christ. There is a saying: sometimes maturity comes with age, and sometimes age comes all by itself. Pray that we are faithful so that we can take part in this.
ApocalypseLuke 2:35 (Yea, A Sword Shall Pierce Through Thy Own Soul Also,) That The Thoughts Of Many Hearts May Be Revealed [Apokalupto: Removal Of A Veil] (Go) Matthew 24:27 As The Lightning Cometh Out Of The East, And Shineth Even Unto The West; So Shall Also The [Abiding Presence] Of The Son Of Man Be. (Go) 1 Corinthians 14:26 The Scriptural Church service: all things be done unto edifying. (Go) 1 Corinthians 14:6 . . . Speak To You Either By Revelation [Apokalupsis: Removal Of A Covering Or Veil], Or By Knowledge, Or By Prophesying, Or By Doctrine? (Go) 1 Corinthians 14:29-33 You May All Prophesy One By One (Go) 1 Corinthians 14:30 If Any Thing Be Revealed [Apokalupto: Removal Of A Veil] To Another That Sitteth By, Let The First Hold His Peace. (Go) 1 Peter 4:13 Rejoice In Partaking of Christ's Sufferings; That, When His Glory Shall Be Revealed, You May Be Glad Also With Exceeding Joy. (Go) 1 Peter 1:13-16 Gird Up the Loins of Your Mind--hope to the End for the Grace--at The Revelation of Jesus Christ--Be Ye Holy; For I Am Holy (Go) 1 Peter 1:5 Who Are Kept By The Power Of God Through Faith Unto Salvation Ready To Be Revealed [Apokalupto: Removal Of A Veil] In The Last Time. (Go) 2 Corinthians 3:18 Transfigured Into the Same Image from Glory to Glory--From One Degree of Radiant Holiness to Another (Go) 2 Thessalonians 1:7 The Lord Jesus Shall Be Revealed [Apokalupsis: Removal Of A Covering Or Veil] From Heaven With His Mighty Angels (Go) Apokalupsis 602 Apokaluqiv Ap-ok-al’-oop-sis (Go) Apokalupto 601 Apokalupto Ap-ok-al-oop’-to (Go) Ephesians 1:17-18 God May Give You The Spirit Of Wisdom And Revelation [Apokalupsis] In The Knowledge Of Him The Eyes Of Your Understanding Be Enlightened (Go) Ephesians 3:3 How That By Revelation [Apokalupsis: Removal Of A Covering] He Made Known Unto Me The Mystery (Go) Is the manifestation of the sons of God a progressive experience or a sudden experience? It is progressive to the faithful and sudden to the unfaithful. (Go) Galatians 1:11-12 The Gospel Not After Man Or Received Of Man, But It Is The Revelation Of Jesus Christ (Go) Galatians 2:2 Paul Went To The Other Apostles By Revelation To Make Sure He Was Not Off Track. He Was Not Independent. (Go) God's method by which He intends to bring us all to fullness is through a body ministry operating in the Church He designed. (Go) What is Great Babylon and How is it Falling Today? (Go) Luke 2:29-32 Mine Eyes Have Seen Thy Salvation . . . A Light To Lighten The Gentiles (Go) Revelations 1:1 The Revelation [Apokalupsis: Removal Of A Covering] Of Jesus Christ (Go) Romans 6, 7, And 8, God's Plan For Salvation Written To Believers (Go) Romans 16:25 God Has Power To Establish You--According To The Revelation [Apokalupsis: Removal Of A Covering Or Veil] (Go) Romans 2:5 Against The Day Of Wrath And Removal Of A Covering Or Veil Of The Righteous Judgment Of God; (Go) What Is the Next Great Event that the Prophets Have Told Us Will Happen? (Go) Romans 8:19 For The Earnest Expectation Of The Creature Waiteth For The Manifestation Of The Sons Of God. (Go) The Meaning Of Your Life Is In Being Like Jesus, Which Is Only Available By The Power Of The Holy Spirit (Go) 1 Peter 1:6 (Go) Author/Compiler Last updated: Nov, 2010 |
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