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Obey your flesh and descend into darkness

How can we know anything about anything


To try to explain truth to him who loves it not is but to give him more plentiful material for misinterpretation. George Macdonald

Do we have to make a choice between science and the Bible?

NO!

That is NOT where the problem is, but that is what everyone seems to want to talk about.

Take science as an example. How can we know anything about the created material world around us?

How can we know anything from what we can see using natural sciences?

We all see the same things in the material world, but we don't come to the same answers.

Why is that?

How can we know anything about the Bible and what it teaches? Every person believes different things about the Bible and how it should be read.

Why is that?

Same scientific facts. Different answers.

Same Bible. Different answers.

Why is that?

The true question is this: How do we come to our answers that we get from what we can see through science or what we can read in the Bible?

How do we think about what we see using science or what we read in the Bible?

How do we analyze what we have seen and read?

How do we interpret what we have seen and read?

We use logic, but logic always has a foundation. Jesus talked about building on the Rock. That Rock is Jesus Christ. He is the true foundation. There are also the false foundations of the ungodly.

An example might help.

Question: Why do you believe in evolution?

Answer: Because my science teacher told me that evolution is scientific fact.

Question: Why do you believe your science teacher?

Answer: because he agrees with the textbook he assigned us to read.

Now, we have asked, "Why?" twice.

If we continued to ask, "Why?" we would come down to the foundation of this person's thoughts.

When we get down to the foundations, there are no more questions that can be answered. So where to the foundations come from?

There are three possibilities.

  1. things that we make up, pulled from the air
  2. demonic lies
  3. divine revelation

Question: Why do you believe in creation?

Answer: Because God revealed this to me. He spoke to me through the Bible and gave me His faith so that I could believe Him.

See how quickly we got to the foundation. This is a belief that has a foundation that is solid and that cannot be moved.

In reality, the things that we make up, that are pulled from the air, are actually from demons and all the lies of demons spring from the prince of demons, Satan. So these are one and the same.

Divine revelation comes from the Almighty, Creator, God, Jesus Christ. So there are only two choices, but how do we know there are only two choices? Because God has revealed this truth to us.

The question then is how do we tell the difference between the revelation that comes from God and the lies of Satan?

The answer is that everyone who sincerely wants to do the will of God will know.

Jesus said, "If you really want to obey God, you will know if what I teach comes from God or from me"

The rejection of the revelation that comes from God is not an intellectual problem. It is a moral problem.

Jesus said, "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and you shall find; knock, and it shall be opened to you: For everyone who asks receives; and he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks it shall be opened." *

Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone? Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent? If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to those who ask him? Matthew 7:7-11 *

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. You can set the truth before someone, but you can't make anyone believe those things that they don't want to submit to. They have to want to obey God.

How frequently it is brought to our attention that nothing good can be done if the will is wrong! Reason alone fails to justify itself. Richard M. Weaver

Jesus said, "You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free" (John 8:32)

"If we are not prepared to buy the truth at the cost of our own humbling we shall not receive it"

Lies appear to have no price upon them. They seem cheap and they abound everywhere. But for the truth there is always an obvious price to pay.

"[God] has set a day when He will judge all the world's people with fairness. And He has chosen the man Jesus to do the judging for Him. God has given proof of this to all of us by raising Jesus from death" (Acts 17:31).

"There is a judge for the one who rejects Me [Jesus] and does not accept My words; that very word which I spoke will condemn him at the last day" (John 12:48)

That also stands for every person who speaks the utterances of Jesus. When we hear them, we hear Jesus Christ, and we either accept or reject. Every person who follows Jesus Christ is commanded to only speak His utterances and not their own.

"When we love others, we know that we belong to the truth, and we feel at ease in the presence of God" (1 John 3:19)

Ravi Zacharias did two open forums in a university. On the second night, one man told him that he had brought two Atheists in the night before who said that the arguments presented were so strong that they could not contend with them, but they were going to remain Atheists because that is what they prefer to be true.

In another case of just listening to an unbeliever and drawing out his reasoning, the unbeliever finally came to his foundations.

They turned out to be assumptions that were pulled from the air. When asked why he believed his basic assumption, the unbeliever looked startled and blurted out, "I guess I'm making the whole thing up." It was quite a revelation to him since he hadn't even known that he had any assumptions. However, he decided to remain an Atheist because he didn't want God to rule over him.

When the Holy Spirit comes upon a person, the Holy Spirit speaks through all the spiritual senses.  God is never far from any person, and He is merciful, hoping that each person may reach out for Him and that there might be communion between Him and that person.  This is why He, Himself, was willing to go to the cross to create that unity.  If there had been any other way, He would not have chosen such a way.  When the Holy Spirit comes upon a person, that person is likely to have wonderful feelings.  The feelings are not the Holy Spirit but rather the reaction of that person’s human body to the Holy Spirit.  Things other than the Holy Ghost can also cause feelings or result in communication, but from a source other than the Holy Spirit.  Even such occult practices as Yoga or Transcendental Meditation can speak through the various spiritual senses but by spirits that are opposed to the Holy Spirit.  There is a meditation that is available in Christ, of course, but to call this kind of meditation either Yoga or TM is to misuse the English language and confuse the issue.

 

God communicates to us through spiritual senses of sight, hearing, feeling, taste, and smell.  He communicates with every person, because He desires fellowship.  “Taste and see that the Lord is good.”  “Today, when you hear His voice . . .”  “. . . you do not savor the things that are of God, but those that are of men.”  If we desire to be obedient to God, then we can always discern His communication from the communication of the evil one.  He is very merciful when we do get off course.  Once we are born again, our spiritual senses become more alert and attuned to God.  We know many things simply because God gives us a feeling, a smell, a taste, a word, or an vision.  This is the Rock on which we build.  We can use logic from this Rock of revelation from God, of course, just as the ungodly can use logic from their basis.  The basis of the ungodly is different, though.  Most of the ungodly don't even think about their basis.  If the ungodly do think about their basis, their foundational thoughts, they usually think their foundational beliefs are "self-evident reality," but when pushed will fall back to say that their foundation is based on "presuppositions" or "axioms."  This means that they just made them up, but they have a defense for building on hot air.  All of this is a smoke screen anyway.  The truth is that their foundation is actually a precept from the evil one.  And this precept from the evil one also comes by feeling, smell, taste, sound, or vision.  You can hear it in the way people speak.  "That left a bad taste in my mouth."  "That really stinks."  "I don't feel good about this."  "I would say that this is true."  "I see what you mean."  Every thought, word, or deed originates in the spiritual realm, whether from God or from Satan.  
 
There are angels that have turned against God.  There are angels that have not turned against God.  God does speak to us through those angels who have not turned against Him (it is written that this is two-thirds of the angels), however, it is God who is speaking, not the angel.  God speaks to us through those who have been born again into His Kingdom, though they also are speaking as the oracle of God when they speak by the Holy Spirit.  Satan can also sometimes use the born again to speak his words rather than God's words.  Otherwise there would be no Christian denominations and the word, Christianity, would actually have meaning.  The word, Christian, does not have meaning today because too many of those who call themselves, Christian, are double-minded.  God also speaks to us through the creation.  Everything that can be known about God is known to every person through the creation.  Satan can also speak through the creation.  We call our observation of the creation, science.  Yet, those who hear from God can see that all of this around us and all the spiritual realm has been created by the Almighty but is now imperfect due to the fall.  Those who hear from Satan think that all of the creation happened by chance and most of them think that the spiritual realm doesn’t exist.  Satan often speaks through those whom he directs, though God will sometimes give revelation to those who don’t necessarily follow Him, so that even they also may speak His words at times.  
 
There is a spiritual battle now in full swing.  The battle is for the spirit, soul, and body.  Everything got turned upside-down and inside-out at the fall.  Satan works mainly through the body to the mind and then the spirit.  God works in the proper order, from the human spirit to the mind and then the body.  God has been working with any person who is willing, and He has been working in a series of moves among small groups of people.  This often has started with a single man, a Luther or a Zwingli, being somewhat in the center, but each move was actually among all who would partake of the revelation that flows from the throne of God at the time.  And each move ended when those who had moved at the command of God failed to move any further at the leading of God.  God is still moving today through any who will hear Him in obedience and surrender.  
 
Jesus said, "If you really want to obey God, you will know if what I teach comes from God or from me."  Jesus also said, "My sheep hear my voice," and, "Whoever seeks Me finds Me."  There is a blessed assurance once we are born again.  He will never leave us or forsake us.  If we lack faith, He has faith.  Only when we forcibly throw Him out will He go, and, even then, He will reason with us and look for a way back into our lives.  His place is in union with us.  We know it and He knows it.  
 
If you wanted to be born again, then you would need to go to God directly, and be willing to turn away from all the other forces, fallen angels, etc. that have been troubling you along with all of their lies.  You can test this out.  If your heart is sincere and you really call out to Jesus Christ in the spiritual realm and tell Him that, if He makes Himself real to you, you want to give yourself totally to Him, then, He will make Himself real to you.  You may want to consider this very seriously.




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