|How Can I Introduce Foundational Truth About the Five Fold Gifting to My Church?|
I have been a member of a denominational church for about 19 years. How can I introduce foundational truth about the Five Fold Gifting to the house and still be submitted to my Pastor? I am sold out for God and I do not want Him to say to that I did not do as he has commanded me to do. Now I know that my commission is great. I am looking for an answer outside the church that i attend. Can you guild me over this mountain? My email is...
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If I understand your question, you are exactly where I was about 40 years ago. My wife and I were attending a Bible-believing denominational church as well. They believed the Bible, except for certain parts. The Pastor taught about the Holy Spirit. He just read what the Bible says. He didn't really mean it, but he read it as it is written. I left that service wondering, "Wouldn't that be wonderful to have the Spirit of God flowing through me in that way!" About half-way through the week, I was riding in my car thinking about this and wanting it when the Holy Spirit filled me. He came in and my life changed. In fact, I was both inside and outside the car at once it seemed. Such a love for everyone and every thing filled my heart! It was amazing and a bit hard to describe. The joy was overflowing. The peace was deep. The glory was beyond comprehension. In the weeks that followed, a strange thing happened to the Bible. I had committed previously to read a chapter a day, which was very boring. Now that changed completely. The Bible became relevant to every part of my life. God began to speak to me through the Bible. I would break out in goose bumps and weep and laugh (I still do). God spoke to me through the Bible, then confirmed it in nature (yes, He speaks through nature), then confirmed it again in the mouth of a Christian. The reality of the apostle and prophet became real to me. I saw the need for prophecy and tongues and a Spirit-led church service where every person ministers and has a part. I felt so constrained by the rituals. In the service, the words of the liturgy were wonderful, yet no one was excited about them. They sang and spoke as dead persons. I was ready to jump out of my skin with the power of God on me in this way. I sensed that the order of the Church was out of kilter and centered on competition, money, power, and prestige. It seemed that God still desires to work miracles and operate the gifts of the Spirit. Of course, I went to my Pastor. He became angry. He told me that those things were for what he called, "the apostolic age." He quoted a part of 1 Corinthians 13 out of context, claiming that it meant that tongues and prophecy had ceased. But it said, "When that which is perfect is come, that which is in part will cease." I knew that we had not come to that which is perfect. I didn't know that this literally means, "When that which is complete has come, then that which is in part will cease." The parts cease to exist as parts when they become part of the complete Body of Christ, completely joined to the Head, Jesus Christ." Something in my spirit told me that this Pastor was not right. I went to another Pastor of that denomination and another, but I got no satisfying answer. I looked here and there and everywhere, finding some bazaar teachings in the process.
In the vision of Ezekiel, God showed him the house, which is the temple of God, which is actually the Church in order. God told Ezekiel that they had set their thresholds beside God's thresholds and their pillars beside God's pillars. God opens many doors to the Church, but there are many who place their own doors beside God's doors and claim that they are serving God by so doing. In the same way, God sets pillars in the Church, men of God to uphold and give support in the Church. There are those who send themselves or allow men to send them. These are false pillars. God said to Ezekiel that these are abominations. God told Ezekiel to show the house to the house. That is, show the true pattern of the Church to the Church. And God said that some will be ashamed and if they are ashamed, then show them all the aspects of the house. By implication, if they are not ashamed, then just let them continue as they are. They are not ready to receive that level of light. Perhaps sometime down the road, God will open the door to them again and they may not be so bound up that they cannot come in.
There is a lot on this site that has been revealed through the apostles concerning the pattern of the Church. You may have to dig for it a bit, but there is a lot here.
Last updated: Oct, 2011
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