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Challenge: Evolutionary Value and a Demonstrable Biological Explanation


If you have not read Stories Versus Truth, you may want to read that before reading this.

This is a typical example

Christian: "God is love. There is no other source of love. There is fake love, but God is the only source of genuine love. God is also the source of morality, logic, knowledge, wisdom, understanding, peace, joy, and so much more. He even gives these things, in some measure, to those who hate Him."

Atheist:"Everything you have stated has an evolutionary value and a demonstrable biological explanation."

(see entire dialog)

Before we deal with this, it should be noted that the reason we believe is not based on physical evidence or human argument, though the observable physical evidence supports God's existence and His Truth without the mental gymnastics that the Atheists and Evolutionists find themselves tangled in. It is based in the power of God. Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word (utterance) of God. God speaks. God speaks to every person. Whoever will listen receives the faith that is of God. This is a supernatural belief that is not human-generated. It is a gift. That faith is the belief that what God has said is true. Before a person is born again, there is a history of hearing God's voice. No one can come to Christ unless the Father draws him or her. A person is born again the moment that he or she hears God's voice and receives faith to believe in Jesus as Savior from sin. In the same way, it is God who speaks and says that the Bible is the Word of God without error. When we hear His voice, then His faith comes, the supernatural belief that the Bible is the Word of God without error. Once God opens our eyes, we see that the Bible is the only source that is both internally and externally consistent. We cannot possibly believe unless we are having an active interaction with our Maker. Some Christians are not aware enough of their own experience to know this. That's why we have all the previously-mentioned reasons for believing the Bible as the Word of God. (some caveats about hearing God's Voice)

The fact that someone can make up a story, such as evolution of naturalism, doesn't make that story true.  Evolution cannot be shown to have happened using scientific method.  It can be argued, but the arguments are simply mental exercises.  Naturalism cannot be proved using science.  Show the steps of the experiments that prove that Christ does not hold everything together and keep it in order by His might so that anyone can repeat the experiments.  Show the steps of the experiments that prove that the Holy Spirit doesn't teach and lead followers of Christ--show these steps in a way that anyone could repeat the experiments and come to the same conclusions.  Show that these concepts are true without any dependence on arbitrary presuppositions, assumptions, and paradigms.  You see, these are merely alternate stories to compete with what God says to us by revelation.  Without revelation, it is impossible to know anything for sure.

Interestingly, explanation given in the previous paragraph does not depend on circular reasoning or poor logic. It depends on God. This is the kind of faith that is what is really operating. It is based on revelation. Now, a naturalist will attack the whole idea of revelation claiming that revelation cannot be verified.

When answering this type of statement, you are probably dealing with a confirmed Atheist or Evolutionist. There is not a lot of point in arguing. You are in the catch 22: If you answer a fool in his follow, you become a fool like him, but if you don't answer him, then he thinks that he wins.

Here is the problem with the reasoning of the Atheist. The contention is: "If I can make up a story and you cannot prove that story to be absolutely false using materialistic arguments, then that story is true. This presents two logical fallacies. The first fallacy is that this is that this is an argument from ignorance, also known as argumentum ad ignorantiam or "appeal to ignorance" (where "ignorance" stands for: "lack of evidence to the contrary"). It asserts that a proposition is true because it has not yet been proven false. This represents a type of false dichotomy, that is, it assumes there are only two choices. With a historical claim like there, there is no way that sufficient investigation of material evidence to conclusively prove the proposition to be either true or false. It also leaves out the most important fourth option: God has uttered His declaration to us by special revelation, so we know that the Bible is the Word of God without error. He has testified to us that the account written in the Book of Genesis is literally correct and that animals reproduce after their kinds. And He has directly revealed the same thing through His created Word, showing us by many experiments that animals do indeed reproduce after their kinds with tremendous variation but without evolving into different kinds of animals. And He has uttered His voice in the fossils that we have seen which are part of His creation, showing us that there are no transitional kinds. All of these utterances of God are plain to those who desire to hear and obey God's voice. The disobedient refuse to see this. **

The second fallacy is known as a universal negative. A universal negative is a statement such as these: "there are no living dinosaurs" or "there is no God". In this case, the universal negative, although unspoken but implied, is: "God does not reveal." Such a statement is irrational [insane]. The person making such a statement is claiming to be God, knowing the internal spiritual experiences of every person on the planet. Some go so far as to assert that God has never revealed, one of the most popular arguments against the Bible being revealed and written by God through people. This assertion presupposes that the person making the assertion knows the personal spiritual experiences of every person who has ever lived since the beginning of time. That is insane.

** "What makes the question complex is that in place of the countless thousands of transitional forms expected (as Darwin logically indicated should be found, and anticipated would be found in future), there exists at any point in time a handful of candidates, i.e. fossils put forward as transitional forms by evolutionary proponents. [Note: By 'transitional forms' is meant here fossils showing intermediate stages between major evolutionary transitions, i.e. from one kind of creature to a wholly different kind. For example, stages in the supposed transition of a walking reptile to a flying bird, nothing which creationists could regard as variation/speciation within a kind. Some evolutionists argue that we have countless thousands of transitional fossils, but they empty the term 'transitional fossil' of any content really meaningful for the creation-evolution debate. They define a fossil as 'transitional' in the same sense that a car is 'transitional' between a unicycle and a truck. That is not in view here.] Creationists by definition would argue that there are none, so to evolutionists this is seen as 'proof'. From a creation perspective, though, consider the following:" Go to for the rest of this article.

Ungodly people are forced to hold on tightly to some basic presuppositions.  These presuppositions are just simple-minded assumptions.  They are filters and a way to censor out any information that supports the existence of God.  They set up a web of rules to filter out God.  They will only accept those things that conform to Naturalism, materialism, and uniformitarianism.  Naturalism claims that God does nothing.  Materialism claims that there is no God or spiritual realm.  Uniformitarianism claims that there was not creation and that there was no violent worldwide flood, as the Bible and numerous other historical accounts record.  Whatever they observe that does not conform to this complex filter is censored.  The way that it is censored can take several forms.  The ungodly may boldly proclaim that, though the data appears to support God's version and refute the version of the ungodly, yet it still must be interpreted to mean just the opposite of what it does mean.  A backup method that ungodly people use is to prophecy that in the future, science will be able to explain what they see as an anomaly.  If that fails, they will hide the data, set it aside, or lie to keep the public from knowing the truth.  The data clearly demolishes the story of the ungodly and clearly supports the reality of the Creator God, His Bible, and His abiding Presence in His people.  When confronted with the obvious, a closed-minded ungodly person says, "I can't understand it."  They are willingly ignorant because they refuse to hold God in their knowledge.  The reality is that these people, for whatever reason, don't what to know the Creator.  They don't want to truly know Jesus, their Creator.


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