The Thoughts We Have Thunk

How can we know anything about anything

To try to explain truth to him who loves it not is but to give him more plentiful material for misinterpretation. George Macdonald

Do we have to make a choice between science and the Bible?

NO!

That is NOT where the problem is, but that is what everyone seems to want to talk about.

Take science as an example. How can we know anything about the created material world around us?

How can we know anything from what we can see using natural sciences?

We all see the same things in the material world, but we don't come to the same answers.

Why is that?

How can we know anything about the Bible and what it teaches? Every person believes different things about the Bible and how it should be read.

Why is that?

Same scientific facts. Different answers.

Same Bible. Different answers.

Why is that?

The true question is this: How do we come to our answers that we get from what we can see through science or what we can read in the Bible?

How do we think about what we see using science or what we read in the Bible?

How do we analyze what we have seen and read?

How do we interpret what we have seen and read?

We use logic, but logic always has a foundation. Jesus talked about building on the Rock. That Rock is Jesus Christ. He is the true foundation. There are also the false foundations of the ungodly.

An example might help.

Question: Why do you believe in evolution?

Answer: Because my science teacher told me that evolution is scientific fact.

Question: Why do you believe your science teacher?

Answer: because he agrees with the textbook he assigned us to read.

Now, we have asked, "Why?" twice.

If we continued to ask, "Why?" we would come down to the foundation of this person's thoughts.

When we get down to the foundations, there are no more questions that can be answered. So where to the foundations come from?

There are three possibilities.

things that we make up, pulled from the air
demonic lies
divine revelation

Question: Why do you believe in creation?

Answer: Because God revealed this to me. He spoke to me through the Bible and gave me His faith so that I could believe Him.

See how quickly we got to the foundation. This is a belief that has a foundation that is solid and that cannot be moved.

In reality, the things that we make up, that are pulled from the air, are actually from demons and all the lies of demons spring from the prince of demons, Satan. So these are one and the same.

Divine revelation comes from the Almighty, Creator, God, Jesus Christ. So there are only two choices, but how do we know there are only two choices? Because God has revealed this truth to us.

The question then is how do we tell the difference between the revelation that comes from God and the lies of Satan?

The answer is that everyone who sincerely wants to do the will of God will know.

Jesus said, "If you really want to obey God, you will know if what I teach comes from God or from me"

The rejection of the revelation that comes from God is not an intellectual problem. It is a moral problem.

Jesus said, "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and you shall find; knock, and it shall be opened to you: For everyone who asks receives; and he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks it shall be opened." *

Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone? Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent? If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to those who ask him? Matthew 7:7-11 *

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. You can set the truth before someone, but you can't make anyone believe those things that they don't want to submit to. They have to want to obey God.

How frequently it is brought to our attention that nothing good can be done if the will is wrong! Reason alone fails to justify itself. Richard M. Weaver

Jesus said, "You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free" (John 8:32)

"If we are not prepared to buy the truth at the cost of our own humbling we shall not receive it"

Lies appear to have no price upon them. They seem cheap and they abound everywhere. But for the truth there is always an obvious price to pay.

"[God] has set a day when He will judge all the world's people with fairness. And He has chosen the man Jesus to do the judging for Him. God has given proof of this to all of us by raising Jesus from death" (Acts 17:31).

"There is a judge for the one who rejects Me [Jesus] and does not accept My words; that very word which I spoke will condemn him at the last day" (John 12:48)

That also stands for every person who speaks the utterances of Jesus. When we hear them, we hear Jesus Christ, and we either accept or reject. Every person who follows Jesus Christ is commanded to only speak His utterances and not their own.

"When we love others, we know that we belong to the truth, and we feel at ease in the presence of God" (1 John 3:19)

Ravi Zacharias did two open forums in a university. On the second night, one man told him that he had brought two Atheists in the night before who said that the arguments presented were so strong that they could not contend with them, but they were going to remain Atheists because that is what they prefer to be true.

In another case of just listening to an unbeliever and drawing out his reasoning, the unbeliever finally came to his foundations.

They turned out to be assumptions that were pulled from the air. When asked why he believed his basic assumption, the unbeliever looked startled and blurted out, "I guess I'm making the whole thing up." It was quite a revelation to him since he hadn't even known that he had any assumptions. However, he decided to remain an Atheist because he didn't want God to rule over him.

Thoughts We Have Thunk

Logic has made a phenomenal goof,
When it offers proof, there's no proof of the proof.
If your life is meaningless, aimless and punk,
You might give some thought to the thoughts you have thunk.

An elastic logic is taught in the schools,
And thinking they’re wise, they become silly fools.
The students must kowtow or else they will flunk,
So they learn confusion in thoughts they have thunk.

Fierce strongholds of error reside in the mind
With paths that keep changing, that waggle and wind.
And logic that's loaded with glazed over junk.
You don't really think how your thoughts have been thunk.

The natural mind is so lofty and high,
And amazingly sneaky when telling a lie.
If folks only knew how their thoughts have been thunk,
They wouldn't be tempted to fall for such bunk.

You think a consensus can make something true?
You think that the news is true-blue through and through?
For most of us, some of the thoughts we have thunk.
First entered our minds from the televijunk

We don't need a hypnotist to hypnotize.
Not knowing what's real, we can't tell what's lies.
The media loads us with informAjunk
To use as a basis for thoughts we have thunk.

You hear a false statement, if it's stated well,
And think it's from heaven, but it came from hell.
Don't heedlessly, head-lessly lay in your bunk,
To be lulled to sleep by the thoughts you have thunk.

Theologians all argue. Ecologists do.
Historians, experts and scientists too.
If, ever, they thought how their thoughts have been thunk.
They wouldn't end up in a big arguemunk.

We just know in part, however we try,
And a part of the truth is like telling a lie.
One holds a leg, while another, the trunk.
We are just like those blind men at that elephunk.

You start with a true set of facts straight from God,
Then twist them and squeeze them to make something odd.
Human analysis, frankly, has stunk
Because of our errors in thoughts we have thunk.

One false assumption is all that it takes
To take many truths and replace them with fakes.
We ALL make assumptions--assume them with spunk.
With presuppositions ALL our thoughts are thunk.

Each of our ways is so right in our eyes.
It's amazing the things that our mind justifies!
Will you still depend on the thoughts that you thunk?
And worship the brain in your thick craniumk?

It may feel as real as real could feel,
But feelings are fickle, despite their appeal.
So products of wildest imaginAjunk,
Feel real when repeated in thoughts that we thunk.

Being right is important... how we long to be right!
In confirming our rightness, we find our delight.
Our scholars and experts give confirmAjunk,
But they fail to tell how their thoughts had been thunk.

Do you like to hear just what you like to hear?
Do you know it's right... 'cause it tickles your ear?
Folks think, by affirming, they've grown, but they've shrunk,
So they don't like to challenge the thoughts they have thunk.

Thought becomes action, then it becomes you.
You become what you think. You become what you do.
You might end up spiritually blind, deaf and drunk,
If you rely on the thoughts you have thunk.

All systems of man are now falling apart,
For they're founded on concepts from man's evil heart.
Your proud ship is sinking; it's sinking; it's sunk.
They wouldn't hold water... those thoughts you had thunk.

Would it be so silly to start from the start
To challenge your thinking, and open your heart?
Not laying the facts on the table... kerplunk!
Then polluting them with old thoughts you had thunk.

If we could just yield and let God reveal,
We could tell what is false. We could tell what is real.
We don't need to constantly, forever flunk
Entrapped within mazes of thoughts we have thunk.

Yielding is something we don't do too well.
Submission's a subject that just doesn't sell.
But if you're relying on thoughts you have thunk
You're building a tow'r of your own Babalunk.

This is the moment, and this is the day.
The time to trust Jesus to show us the way.
In His mind, He doesn't have thoughts you have thunk.
Let Jesus recycle your theolojunk.

copyright 1995, Bob and Kathy

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