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Obey your flesh and descend into darkness

How can we know anything about anything


To try to explain truth to him who loves it not is but to give him more plentiful material for misinterpretation. George Macdonald

Do we have to make a choice between science and the Bible?

NO!

That is NOT where the problem is, but that is what everyone seems to want to talk about.

Take science as an example. How can we know anything about the created material world around us?

How can we know anything from what we can see using natural sciences?

We all see the same things in the material world, but we don't come to the same answers.

Why is that?

How can we know anything about the Bible and what it teaches? Every person believes different things about the Bible and how it should be read.

Why is that?

Same scientific facts. Different answers.

Same Bible. Different answers.

Why is that?

The true question is this: How do we come to our answers that we get from what we can see through science or what we can read in the Bible?

How do we think about what we see using science or what we read in the Bible?

How do we analyze what we have seen and read?

How do we interpret what we have seen and read?

We use logic, but logic always has a foundation. Jesus talked about building on the Rock. That Rock is Jesus Christ. He is the true foundation. There are also the false foundations of the ungodly.

An example might help.

Question: Why do you believe in evolution?

Answer: Because my science teacher told me that evolution is scientific fact.

Question: Why do you believe your science teacher?

Answer: because he agrees with the textbook he assigned us to read.

Now, we have asked, "Why?" twice.

If we continued to ask, "Why?" we would come down to the foundation of this person's thoughts.

When we get down to the foundations, there are no more questions that can be answered. So where to the foundations come from?

There are three possibilities.

  1. things that we make up, pulled from the air
  2. demonic lies
  3. divine revelation

Question: Why do you believe in creation?

Answer: Because God revealed this to me. He spoke to me through the Bible and gave me His faith so that I could believe Him.

See how quickly we got to the foundation. This is a belief that has a foundation that is solid and that cannot be moved.

In reality, the things that we make up, that are pulled from the air, are actually from demons and all the lies of demons spring from the prince of demons, Satan. So these are one and the same.

Divine revelation comes from the Almighty, Creator, God, Jesus Christ. So there are only two choices, but how do we know there are only two choices? Because God has revealed this truth to us.

The question then is how do we tell the difference between the revelation that comes from God and the lies of Satan?

The answer is that everyone who sincerely wants to do the will of God will know.

Jesus said, "If you really want to obey God, you will know if what I teach comes from God or from me"

The rejection of the revelation that comes from God is not an intellectual problem. It is a moral problem.

Jesus said, "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and you shall find; knock, and it shall be opened to you: For everyone who asks receives; and he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks it shall be opened." *

Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone? Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent? If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to those who ask him? Matthew 7:7-11 *

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. You can set the truth before someone, but you can't make anyone believe those things that they don't want to submit to. They have to want to obey God.

How frequently it is brought to our attention that nothing good can be done if the will is wrong! Reason alone fails to justify itself. Richard M. Weaver

Jesus said, "You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free" (John 8:32)

"If we are not prepared to buy the truth at the cost of our own humbling we shall not receive it"

Lies appear to have no price upon them. They seem cheap and they abound everywhere. But for the truth there is always an obvious price to pay.

"[God] has set a day when He will judge all the world's people with fairness. And He has chosen the man Jesus to do the judging for Him. God has given proof of this to all of us by raising Jesus from death" (Acts 17:31).

"There is a judge for the one who rejects Me [Jesus] and does not accept My words; that very word which I spoke will condemn him at the last day" (John 12:48)

That also stands for every person who speaks the utterances of Jesus. When we hear them, we hear Jesus Christ, and we either accept or reject. Every person who follows Jesus Christ is commanded to only speak His utterances and not their own.

"When we love others, we know that we belong to the truth, and we feel at ease in the presence of God" (1 John 3:19)

Ravi Zacharias did two open forums in a university. On the second night, one man told him that he had brought two Atheists in the night before who said that the arguments presented were so strong that they could not contend with them, but they were going to remain Atheists because that is what they prefer to be true.

In another case of just listening to an unbeliever and drawing out his reasoning, the unbeliever finally came to his foundations.

They turned out to be assumptions that were pulled from the air. When asked why he believed his basic assumption, the unbeliever looked startled and blurted out, "I guess I'm making the whole thing up." It was quite a revelation to him since he hadn't even known that he had any assumptions. However, he decided to remain an Atheist because he didn't want God to rule over him.

The Real Question  

So what is the real question, really?  

Dr. Colin Patterson, Senior Paleontologist, British Museum of Natural History, London, was giving a keynote address when he asked an interesting question.  
 
"Question is: Can you tell me anything you know about evolution-any one thing that is true? I tried that question on the geology staff at the Field Museum of Natural History and the only answer I got was silence. I tried it on the members of the Evolutionary Morphology Seminar in the University of Chicago, a very prestigious body of evolutionists, and all I got was silence for a long time and eventually one person said, 'I do know one thing-it ought not to be taught in high school.'"  
 
So, that is the real question.  Next time someone tells you that this ridiculous fable of evolutionism is true, ask them if they can tell you anything they know about evolution-any one thing that they have personally verified as being true. If they have any level of respect for your intelligence, they will admit that they have no evidence. If they think you are an idiot, they will make some bogus statement about proof. Then, the choice is up to you whether you want to question their proof to it's inevitable logical end that their proof isn't proof of goo-to-you evolution.

Just ask Evolutionists to explain why they believe in Evolution.  Make them explain why they believe every single point that they make.  They make points as if they had evidence, but when you ask them for evidence, they will refer to a class they had or a book they read or claims such as, "Everyone knows this" or something else that indicates that they are making empty claims.  Do not accuse them of making empty claims.  Make them support their claims with things that they have actually seen and verified.  They have verified nothing, I can assure you.  They blow a lot of smoke, so that smoke will raise many questions in your mind.  If they say that the such and so evolved, ask, what is the mechanism for the evolving?  If they say that the mechanism is random chance, ask how that works specifically since the Second Law of Thermodynamics predicts that just the opposite will happen, that information will not be added.  They may try to use condescending language, implying that you are just too stupid to follow their thought process, but hang in their.  When they use poor logic, ask about it rather than accuse.  Ask, "Isn't that circular reasoning?"  Ask, "I thought that evolution was a random process, but you say that evolution did this.  Is it a random process or a thinking and reasoning creative entity?"  If they say that every once in a while, information is added to the DNS by accident, then ask how they know.  Have they observed it?  If they say that they know it because they read it somewhere or it was published in a scientific article, ask if they actually read the detail of the research behind the scientific article.  The likelihood is that they have not even read the article.  Ask them if there have any other reason for believing the scientific article other than blind "faith" in the article.  Real faith is solid and not like the blind, baseless, faith of the ungodly.  In fact, you will find that you never have anything to fear in asking Evolutionists these things.  Behind their bold words there are just puffs of smoke.  It takes real patience to talk to them, but if you keep your cool and really listen and question everything they say, they will lose their cool or run out of steam when they realize that they have spent their life following a mirage.  They have been fooled and have probably fooled others as a result.

It is important that you do this in love.  That means that you need to keep acknowledging Jesus in your heart.  He will lead you and guide you.  Don't expect that you can convert a dogmatic Atheist.  It could be that all you can do is give a true witness so that when they stand before the throne of God, the Judge of all mankind, they will have no excuse.  They will say, "No one told me."  The Judge will say, "That is a lie.  I spoke to you directly through my servant, (insert your name here)."  

One Atheist, after over an hour of listening/questioning and him talking, said, "I guess I'm just making it up."  A professor, after months of dialog, said: "Well, if you want proof in the form of  empirical evidence, real observation, and mathematical logic, it's not available."  He went on to tell this lie: "Nothing of any real interest can be proven by empirical evidence, real observation, and mathematical logic."  Of course, if that were true, then we could not build a building or make an airplane or design and manufacture a car.  All of these are based on empirical evidence, real observation, and mathematical logic rather than flimflam.

The scientists who see creation and the scientists who see evolution are looking at the exact same evidence.

So what are we really comparing here?  What is the choice?  The choice is simply this:  Do you believe the historical account of the Bible--do you believe God, or do you believe the made-up stories of the evolutionists.  That is the crux of the argument.  Your answer will be based on your attitude toward God.  Science has nothing to do with it unless you re-define science.  Evolutionists tend to define science as Naturalism, Materialism, or Evolutionism for this very reason. The real question is this: Do you love God? Based on your answer to this real question, you will decide whether to believe in Evolutionism of to believe in the Creator.

Evolution isn't science.

Astronomy

Bible, God, theology

Biology (creation vs evolution)

     
  • Origin of life (origin of life theories critiqued, including life-from-space)
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  • Design features (dozens! ID, biomimetics, ‘bad’ design, astronomy, irreducible complexity)
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  • Natural selection (yes, it happens but it is not the same as evolution)
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  • Mutations (yes, they happen, but they can’t change microbes into microbiologists)
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  • Speciation (yes, it happens, but it is limited to variation within the created kind)
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  • Genetics (‘mitochondrial Eve’, ape vs human DNA, gene duplication, genetic engineering, cloning, longevity of patriarchs)
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  • Information theory (including DNA) (information defined, claimed new information)
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  • Probabilities (could life arise by chance? What about computer simulations of evolution?)
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  • Thermodynamics and order (how the laws of thermodynamics contradict naturalism)
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  • Vestigial organs (including ‘junk’ DNA)
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  • Embryonic recapitulation and similarities (Haeckel’s fraudulent concept, plus similarities due to common design)
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  • Charles Darwin (his religious views, contribution to human suffering, natural selection vs evolution)

Creation: relevance to Christianity, society and science

Geology, the Flood, the Ice Age and the age of the earth

     
  • Young Age Evidence (astronomy, botany, geology, fossils, caves, coal, glaciology, human history, oceanography)
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  • Radiometric Dating (radiometric dating problems, flaws, rapid decay? radiohalos)
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  • Flood (global? fish survival? Black Sea flood? flood legends).
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  • Noah s Ark (size, construction, stability, feasibility, care for animals, diseases, biogeography)
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  • Geology (Flood evidences, coal formation, limestone caves, rapid rocks, age of fossils?)
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  • Plate Tectonics (continental drift and catastrophic plate tectonics)
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  • Ice Age (post-Flood Ice Age, ice core dating, multiple Ice Ages? mammoths)

History

     
  • Archaeology (archaeology and the Bible, from the Flood to New Testament times)
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  • History (including biblical chronology, genealogies, origin of deep time beliefs)
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  • Scopes Trial (What is the truth?)
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  • Linguistics (languages point to the Tower of Babel, animals talking?)

Paleontology

     
  • Fossils (rapid formation, missing links, living fossils, dino-birds?, whale origins, tetrapods)
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  • Anthropology (human ancestry, alleged ape-men)
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  • Dinosaurs (humans coexist with? evidence against millions of years, birds from dinosaurs?
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  • Mammoths (how they fit with the post-Flood Ice Age)



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