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How can we know anything about anything


To try to explain truth to him who loves it not is but to give him more plentiful material for misinterpretation. George Macdonald

Do we have to make a choice between science and the Bible?

NO!

That is NOT where the problem is, but that is what everyone seems to want to talk about.

Take science as an example. How can we know anything about the created material world around us?

How can we know anything from what we can see using natural sciences?

We all see the same things in the material world, but we don't come to the same answers.

Why is that?

How can we know anything about the Bible and what it teaches? Every person believes different things about the Bible and how it should be read.

Why is that?

Same scientific facts. Different answers.

Same Bible. Different answers.

Why is that?

The true question is this: How do we come to our answers that we get from what we can see through science or what we can read in the Bible?

How do we think about what we see using science or what we read in the Bible?

How do we analyze what we have seen and read?

How do we interpret what we have seen and read?

We use logic, but logic always has a foundation. Jesus talked about building on the Rock. That Rock is Jesus Christ. He is the true foundation. There are also the false foundations of the ungodly.

An example might help.

Question: Why do believe in evolution?

Answer: Because my science teacher told me that evolution is scientific fact.

Question: Why do you believe your science teacher?

Answer: because he agrees with the textbook he assigned us to read.

Now, we have asked, "Why?" twice.

If we continued to ask, "Why?" we would come down to the foundation of this person's thoughts.

When we get down to the foundations, there are no more questions that can be answered. So where to the foundations come from?

There are three possibilities.

  1. things that we make up, pulled from the air
  2. demonic lies
  3. divine revelation

Question: Why do believe in creation?

Answer: Because God revealed this to me. He spoke to me through the Bible and gave me His faith so that I could believe Him.

See how quickly we got to the foundation. This is a belief that has a foundation that is solid and that cannot be moved.

In reality, the things that we make up, that are pulled from the air, are actually from demons and all the lies of demons spring from the prince of demons, Satan. So these are one and the same.

Divine revelation comes from the Almighty, Creator, God, Jesus Christ. So there are only two choices, but how do we know there are only two choices? Because God has revealed this truth to us.

The question then is how do we tell the difference between the revelation that comes from God and the lies of Satan?

The answer is that everyone who sincerely wants to do the will of God will know.

Jesus said, "If you really want to obey God, you will know if what I teach comes from God or from me"

The rejection of the revelation that comes from God is not an intellectual problem. It is a moral problem.

Jesus said, "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and you shall find; knock, and it shall be opened to you: For everyone who asks receives; and he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks it shall be opened. *

Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone? Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent? If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to those who ask him? Matthew 7:7-11 *

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. You can set the truth before someone, but you can't make anyone believe those things that they don't want to submit to. They have to want to obey God.

How frequently it is brought to our attention that nothing good can be done if the will is wrong! Reason alone fails to justify itself. Richard M. Weaver

Jesus said, "You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free" (John 8:32)

"If we are not prepared to buy the truth at the cost of our own humbling we shall not receive it"

Lies appear to have no price upon them. They seem cheap and they abound everywhere. But for the truth there is always an obvious price to pay.

[God] has set a day when He will judge all the world's people with fairness. And He has chosen the man Jesus to do the judging for Him. God has given proof of this to all of us by raising Jesus from death" (Acts 17:31).

"There is a judge for the one who rejects Me [Jesus] and does not accept My words; that very word which I spoke will condemn him at the last day" (John 12:48)

That also stands for every person who speaks the utterances of Jesus. When we hear them, we hear Jesus Christ, and we either accept or reject. Every person who follows Jesus Christ is commanded to only speak His utterances and not their own.

"When we love others, we know that we belong to the truth, and we feel at ease in the presence of God" (1 John 3:19)

Ravi Zacharias did two open forums in a university. On the second night, one man told him that he had brought two Atheists in the night before who said that the arguments presented were so strong that they could not contend with them, but they were going to remain Atheists because that is what they prefer to be true.

In listening to an unbeliever and drawing out his reasoning, the unbeliever finally came to his foundations.

They turned out to be assumptions that were pulled from the air. When asked why he believed his basic assumption, the unbeliever looked startled and blurted out, “I guess I’m making the whole thing up.” It was quite a revelation to him since he hadn't even known that he had any assumptions. However, he decided to remain an Atheist because he didn’t want God to rule over him.

7-17-2004

India - Thus Far  
 
The monsoon rains poured out its fury on the thatch roofed church building at Bro G.S. John's compound here in India during our service. Droplets of rain made their way through the thatch roof, wetting the saints gathered below.  
 
It was almost a metaphor for what the Lord was doing. The Holy Spirit rain that is being poured though out the earth, was making its way in to India as well. That night, many were filled with the Spirit, many lives were dedicated to our great Master.  
 
We met (4) brothers that God had brought to the camp from far away, with a God given thirst for greater things. Two were Hindu converts, two were Muslim converts. One Muslim brother had been spoken to not through other Christians, but through a vision. In time, he gave his heart to the living Savior. After a few struggling years later, his wife also abandoned the darkness of Islam for the living Savior of all man kind. Our dear brother still carries the scars of his near death beating at the hands of this ex Muslim brothers, because of his conversion. He walks with a limp now, but he walks straight for Jesus.  
 
Saryn Hingston and Alicia Kubassek have poured out their love, their time, their comfort, and their lives to teach these almost 100 orphans at our Bro G.S. John's compound. They have enriched the lives of these little ones, and they have been enriched themselves. When we arrived, Alicia had been running a high temperature. After a visit to the hospital, the infection was brought under control in 24 hours. These are the inconveniences of North American stomachs living in a far away land. May God Bless these sweet servants of God.  
 
One of the local church elders died at a young age. We met his widow and her tender young children. She is now destitute, with no means of support. We stood with her as she gave her two children to Bro John, so that at least the children would have food and clothing. She would have to leave. We stood there wishing we could do something to make a difference. We ministered to her to allow her to pay for her immediate needs, but we committed her uncertain future to a faithful Provider in our Lord. The children will be well taken care of. Bro John will see to it. Saryn Hingston and Alicia Kubbesek will see to it. They will miss their mother.  
 
Nicholas and Jacob Kechter, Meridith and Lidia Kechter, 4 small children from Fort Collins Co, sent along 100 toys to give out to the orphans. Susan Wingfield of Virginia, along with my sweet Debbie Snoke, handed out each toy personally to 100 kids. We saw 100 smiles. There were 200 hugs! These are children, that just a few days and months ago, were bonded servants. Many, as young as 4, only means of life was begging on the streets. Now they have food, clothing ( they are still wearing and using the clothing sent from the Olsons of Nebraska) love, and are being taught  
about Jesus.  
 
On to Bro R.K Paul's we traveled by train, a 19 hour trip, then by jeep another 4 hours. We arrived for the morning meeting exhausted, but we were quickly revived. 250 souls had been there waiting since 9:30, though we did not arrive until 11:30. They were prayed up, and praised up. R.K Paul told us that the church there had just concluded 40 days of  
fasting to call on the Lord. NO wonder the presence of God was so rich.  
 
The meeting, though it was only one, was rich in Spirit. Bro R.K Paul was called to a private room in his house after the meeting. He was introduced to a well known actress of this area/ country that has been invited by one of the elders. She had stood out of site, but within hearing of the booming PA system on the roof top ( so that everyone could hear). She did not want to be seen, she did not want her celebrity status to muddy up the meeting. She is a Muslim. She told brother Paul that she had been so blessed!!  
 
Who knows how many hearts and lives these encounters with the Holy Spirit have. Who knows the eternal implications? We know that the day will come when every eye shall see, every tongue confess, that Jesus Christ is  
Lord, to the Glory of God.

Please continue praying for us, there are still may places to visit, many miles to cover, many hearts to touch for Christ.




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