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How can we know anything about anything


To try to explain truth to him who loves it not is but to give him more plentiful material for misinterpretation. George Macdonald

Do we have to make a choice between science and the Bible?

NO!

That is NOT where the problem is, but that is what everyone seems to want to talk about.

Take science as an example. How can we know anything about the created material world around us?

How can we know anything from what we can see using natural sciences?

We all see the same things in the material world, but we don't come to the same answers.

Why is that?

How can we know anything about the Bible and what it teaches? Every person believes different things about the Bible and how it should be read.

Why is that?

Same scientific facts. Different answers.

Same Bible. Different answers.

Why is that?

The true question is this: How do we come to our answers that we get from what we can see through science or what we can read in the Bible?

How do we think about what we see using science or what we read in the Bible?

How do we analyze what we have seen and read?

How do we interpret what we have seen and read?

We use logic, but logic always has a foundation. Jesus talked about building on the Rock. That Rock is Jesus Christ. He is the true foundation. There are also the false foundations of the ungodly.

An example might help.

Question: Why do believe in evolution?

Answer: Because my science teacher told me that evolution is scientific fact.

Question: Why do you believe your science teacher?

Answer: because he agrees with the textbook he assigned us to read.

Now, we have asked, "Why?" twice.

If we continued to ask, "Why?" we would come down to the foundation of this person's thoughts.

When we get down to the foundations, there are no more questions that can be answered. So where to the foundations come from?

There are three possibilities.

  1. things that we make up, pulled from the air
  2. demonic lies
  3. divine revelation

Question: Why do believe in creation?

Answer: Because God revealed this to me. He spoke to me through the Bible and gave me His faith so that I could believe Him.

See how quickly we got to the foundation. This is a belief that has a foundation that is solid and that cannot be moved.

In reality, the things that we make up, that are pulled from the air, are actually from demons and all the lies of demons spring from the prince of demons, Satan. So these are one and the same.

Divine revelation comes from the Almighty, Creator, God, Jesus Christ. So there are only two choices, but how do we know there are only two choices? Because God has revealed this truth to us.

The question then is how do we tell the difference between the revelation that comes from God and the lies of Satan?

The answer is that everyone who sincerely wants to do the will of God will know.

Jesus said, "If you really want to obey God, you will know if what I teach comes from God or from me"

The rejection of the revelation that comes from God is not an intellectual problem. It is a moral problem.

Jesus said, "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and you shall find; knock, and it shall be opened to you: For everyone who asks receives; and he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks it shall be opened. *

Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone? Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent? If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to those who ask him? Matthew 7:7-11 *

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. You can set the truth before someone, but you can't make anyone believe those things that they don't want to submit to. They have to want to obey God.

How frequently it is brought to our attention that nothing good can be done if the will is wrong! Reason alone fails to justify itself. Richard M. Weaver

Jesus said, "You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free" (John 8:32)

"If we are not prepared to buy the truth at the cost of our own humbling we shall not receive it"

Lies appear to have no price upon them. They seem cheap and they abound everywhere. But for the truth there is always an obvious price to pay.

[God] has set a day when He will judge all the world's people with fairness. And He has chosen the man Jesus to do the judging for Him. God has given proof of this to all of us by raising Jesus from death" (Acts 17:31).

"There is a judge for the one who rejects Me [Jesus] and does not accept My words; that very word which I spoke will condemn him at the last day" (John 12:48)

That also stands for every person who speaks the utterances of Jesus. When we hear them, we hear Jesus Christ, and we either accept or reject. Every person who follows Jesus Christ is commanded to only speak His utterances and not their own.

"When we love others, we know that we belong to the truth, and we feel at ease in the presence of God" (1 John 3:19)

Ravi Zacharias did two open forums in a university. On the second night, one man told him that he had brought two Atheists in the night before who said that the arguments presented were so strong that they could not contend with them, but they were going to remain Atheists because that is what they prefer to be true.

In listening to an unbeliever and drawing out his reasoning, the unbeliever finally came to his foundations.

They turned out to be assumptions that were pulled from the air. When asked why he believed his basic assumption, the unbeliever looked startled and blurted out, “I guess I’m making the whole thing up.” It was quite a revelation to him since he hadn't even known that he had any assumptions. However, he decided to remain an Atheist because he didn’t want God to rule over him.

Whoever "spins" best wins.  Since there is no objective truth, all we have is rhetoric.  Whoever plays the game best wins.  Make sure it is you.  ~ Stanley Fish, a dogmatic relativist explaining relativism

Our children may not be able to read or write after twelve years in government schools, but they will be totally brainwashed into rationalism.

Truth, by definition, is exclusive. ~ Ravi Zacharias

 

There is no neutral zones.  Everyone has a view.  There is no view from nowhere. ~ Ravi Zacharias

 

Pluralism says that all ideas are equal, which results in a loss of reason and will end in end in skepticism.

There is nothing built into relativism that keeps anyone from being arrogant, oppressive, intolerant, self-righteous, closed-minded, defensive, angry, malicious, mean, brutal, or destructive. In fact, relativism allows anything.

There is no basis for doing right in relativism because relativism knows no right or wrong.

It is interesting to note that relativists are very self-righteous.  They take the attitude that they, the relativists, are right and righteous, and those who have faith and put their trust in the absolute Christ are wrong and evil.

It is the pestilent dictum of the Sophists, that the Scriptures are obscure and equivocal.  ~ Luther

The Holy Spirit is no skeptic ~ Luther

 There is something to be said for every error, but whatever may be said for it, the most important thing to be said is that it is erroneous.  ~ Chesterton

Relativism tends to be hypocritical.  Every claim a relativist makes is self refuting.

Those who have promoted evolution with the most enthusiasm have admitted that their goal has been to convince people that there are no moral absolutes. They have said that if people could be shown that everything could be explained without God, then people would stop thinking about moral accountability. Looking around us today it could very well be concluded that the promoters of evolution are winning the battle for men's minds. Moral relativism is here and destroying lives and families, but history shows that this has happened many times before. Each time Christians have turned the situation back again to moral absolutes and that can be done again. ~ creationmoments.com

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Is it objectively true to say that there are no objective truths?

Can you deny the validity of reason without using reason?

If "all perspectives of reality are culturally determined," then is this statement itself culturally determined or transcultural?

If all metanarratives are suspect because they lead to oppression, then can it not be maintained that postmodernism is itself a metanarrative and equally suspect?

If all knowledge claims are a grab for power, then are not postmodernism’s contentions equally motivated by a will to power?  ~ True Truths, Lindsey

 




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