Ptolemy's Geocentric System of the Universe and Evolution

How can we know anything about anything

To try to explain truth to him who loves it not is but to give him more plentiful material for misinterpretation. George Macdonald

Do we have to make a choice between science and the Bible?

NO!

That is NOT where the problem is, but that is what everyone seems to want to talk about.

Take science as an example. How can we know anything about the created material world around us?

How can we know anything from what we can see using natural sciences?

We all see the same things in the material world, but we don't come to the same answers.

Why is that?

How can we know anything about the Bible and what it teaches? Every person believes different things about the Bible and how it should be read.

Why is that?

Same scientific facts. Different answers.

Same Bible. Different answers.

Why is that?

The true question is this: How do we come to our answers that we get from what we can see through science or what we can read in the Bible?

How do we think about what we see using science or what we read in the Bible?

How do we analyze what we have seen and read?

How do we interpret what we have seen and read?

We use logic, but logic always has a foundation. Jesus talked about building on the Rock. That Rock is Jesus Christ. He is the true foundation. There are also the false foundations of the ungodly.

An example might help.

Question: Why do believe in evolution?

Answer: Because my science teacher told me that evolution is scientific fact.

Question: Why do you believe your science teacher?

Answer: because he agrees with the textbook he assigned us to read.

Now, we have asked, "Why?" twice.

If we continued to ask, "Why?" we would come down to the foundation of this person's thoughts.

When we get down to the foundations, there are no more questions that can be answered. So where to the foundations come from?

There are three possibilities.

things that we make up, pulled from the air
demonic lies
divine revelation

Question: Why do believe in creation?

Answer: Because God revealed this to me. He spoke to me through the Bible and gave me His faith so that I could believe Him.

See how quickly we got to the foundation. This is a belief that has a foundation that is solid and that cannot be moved.

In reality, the things that we make up, that are pulled from the air, are actually from demons and all the lies of demons spring from the prince of demons, Satan. So these are one and the same.

Divine revelation comes from the Almighty, Creator, God, Jesus Christ. So there are only two choices, but how do we know there are only two choices? Because God has revealed this truth to us.

The question then is how do we tell the difference between the revelation that comes from God and the lies of Satan?

The answer is that everyone who sincerely wants to do the will of God will know.

Jesus said, "If you really want to obey God, you will know if what I teach comes from God or from me"

The rejection of the revelation that comes from God is not an intellectual problem. It is a moral problem.

Jesus said, "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and you shall find; knock, and it shall be opened to you: For everyone who asks receives; and he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks it shall be opened. *

Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone? Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent? If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to those who ask him? Matthew 7:7-11 *

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. You can set the truth before someone, but you can't make anyone believe those things that they don't want to submit to. They have to want to obey God.

How frequently it is brought to our attention that nothing good can be done if the will is wrong! Reason alone fails to justify itself. Richard M. Weaver

Jesus said, "You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free" (John 8:32)

"If we are not prepared to buy the truth at the cost of our own humbling we shall not receive it"

Lies appear to have no price upon them. They seem cheap and they abound everywhere. But for the truth there is always an obvious price to pay.

[God] has set a day when He will judge all the world's people with fairness. And He has chosen the man Jesus to do the judging for Him. God has given proof of this to all of us by raising Jesus from death" (Acts 17:31).

"There is a judge for the one who rejects Me [Jesus] and does not accept My words; that very word which I spoke will condemn him at the last day" (John 12:48)

That also stands for every person who speaks the utterances of Jesus. When we hear them, we hear Jesus Christ, and we either accept or reject. Every person who follows Jesus Christ is commanded to only speak His utterances and not their own.

"When we love others, we know that we belong to the truth, and we feel at ease in the presence of God" (1 John 3:19)

Ravi Zacharias did two open forums in a university. On the second night, one man told him that he had brought two Atheists in the night before who said that the arguments presented were so strong that they could not contend with them, but they were going to remain Atheists because that is what they prefer to be true.

In listening to an unbeliever and drawing out his reasoning, the unbeliever finally came to his foundations.

They turned out to be assumptions that were pulled from the air. When asked why he believed his basic assumption, the unbeliever looked startled and blurted out, “I guess I’m making the whole thing up.” It was quite a revelation to him since he hadn't even known that he had any assumptions. However, he decided to remain an Atheist because he didn’t want God to rule over him.

Ptolemy's Geocentric System of the Universe and Evolution

The scientist Ptolemy's geocentric system of the universe was the result of making scientific observations and offering scientific theories to explain those observations. That is, Ptolemy made up stories that were consistent with what could be observed.

Centuries later, scientists had fully accepted Ptolemy's stories as science, never realizing that his stories were just stories. Ptolemy's geocentric model, like those of his predecessors, was geocentric and was, in essence, universally accepted. The scientists drew in the church at that time, because a renegade scientist, Galileo, had dared to propose a competing theory that said that Earth was not the center of the universe. Galileo's theory didn't require the complexity of motion or the imaginary substance called "aether," that moved the stars, planets, and sun around. Unfortunately, the church bought into the stories of Ptolemy. Of course they had to. It was science, was it not? And the church muddied its name in the process.

The scientists led the church down the path. The scientists watched the church muddy itself with this false science. Then, the scientists avoid taking any blame. Historians don't blame the scientists. The church is made to look foolish, which it was in this case. The church is not to sit in the counsel of the ungodly. It is very foolish to sit in the counsel of the ungodly.

A theologian named Charles Darwin picked up a number of centuries-old theories and wrote a book called "The Origin of Species: By Means of Natural Selection or the Preservation of Favored Races in the Struggle for Life." The Secular Humanist religion picked up on this idea as did Adolph Hitler. It became a basic starting point for racial discrimination. The Evolution model, like Ptolemy's model of the universe, requires many complexities and some sort of a strange unobservable dark matter (like the aether) that makes all of this work. The Darwinists have many areas in which they just can't get their stories to line up with their observations no matter how hard they try. In fact, the more they observe, the more problems they have. The Creation model has no such conflicts.

Darwinists insist that there are problems with the Creation model. They try to inject some of the Evolution model's axioms into the Creation model and then point out that the Creation model doesn't make sense. Of course, the Creation model must use the Creation model's axioms, not the Evolution model's axioms. The Creation model has Almighty God as Designer and Creator, so it is incompatible with the Evolution model's axioms of Naturalism and Materialism. The Creation model has a worldwide flood, so it is incompatible with the Evolution model's axiom of Uniformitarianism. The Creation model has a timeline of thousands of years, so it is incompatible with the Evolution model's concept of billions of years. There is nothing in observable science that causes a problem for the Creation model, but theoretical science's stories are often incompatible with the Creation model.

A large percentage of denominations and church-like groups are again sitting in the counsel of the ungodly. They are trying to inject Evolutionism into their theology. They are repeating the mistake of the church that accepted Ptolemy's stories as if it had been fact.

Ptolemy's Geocentric System of the Universe and Evolution

How can we know anything about anything

Ptolemy's Geocentric System of the Universe and Evolution

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