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 Who is lying; is it the Ungodly Evolutionists or the Bible-Believing Christians?



Who Is More Likely To Lie?

Who is more likely to lie? Is it those who follow the philosophy of the ungodly, which says, "Do as thou wilt." "There are no absolutes." "There are no lies and there is no truth, only winners and losers." Or, on the other hand, is it those who follow Jesus Christ, wjp sau, "Follow the ten commandments." "There are absolutes." "There are lies and there is truth." "It is not so much about winning as it is about doing the right thing." Granted, there will be mistakes and lies on both sides. There will be things that can be spun by the ungodly media as being a lie when, in fact, no lie was told. And haven't we seen it over and over from ungodly politicians, ungodly "entertainers," ungodly "news" casters, ungodly "scientists," ungodly authors, ungodly teachers, and ungodly film-makers? And that is part of the execution of the doctrine of ungodliness. Bottom line! The ungodly tend to respect a good ungodly liar and to accuse anyone brave enough to tell the truth of lying.

I would think that it would be very clear to everyone who wants to know who is lying. It seems so clear to me, but some people seem confused.

You have two groups of people, and each group is accusing the other of lying. Each group is claiming to be telling the truth. One of these groups is the ungodly Evolutionists. The other group is the godly, those who are following Jesus Christ.

Someone's lying, but who? Is it the ungodly, who don't believe in truth or the godly who believe in truth? Hmmmm. I wonder...

The argument is simply this, did everything create itself through natural processes or did God create everything like the Bible says. There is so much conflicting information in this argument that someone has to be lying. It seems to be difficult, at first, to tell who is lying. The reality is that it is easy to tell who is telling the truth and who is lying. Evolution, by the way, isn't science.

Let's look at the world-view of the believers of Evolution. As an aside, Evolution is just one of the precepts of the ungodly's great smorgasbord of religious ideas. Let's compare this Evolutionistic world-view to that of a godly.

The Evolutionists say that there are exceptions to the second law of thermodynamics, but the creationists say there are not. Reality: no exception has ever been found other than made up stories like the story of Evolution.

The Evolutionists will tell you a half truth about the Second Law of Thermodynamics. The Evolutionists will tell the half truth: "The Second Law of Thermodynamics only applies to isolated systems, so it's not relevant to evolution, because the Earth is an open system." This is a clever lie. Here is the part of the truth that they are withholding: the Second Law of Thermodynamics was derived using theoretical isolated systems, but it applies to all systems, and can only be overcome locally and temporarily in open systems when stringent conditions are met. Not only that, but we are not talking about the Earth. The Earth is just a subsystem of a much larger system called the Universe. The Universe is an isolated system. Evolutionists claim that Evolution took place in this isolated system, but the Second Law of Thermodynamics tells us that their story is a myth.

More information on the Second Law of Thermodynamics can be found here & here & here & here & here

Related to this is the information problem. The supposed Theory of Evolution has no mechanism for evolving. The story now goes that a mutation duplicates a section of DNA. Then, mutation creates new information in that duplicated DNA. Then, natural selection kicks in and selects for the new change. The problem is that no creation of information has ever been observed by any natural process. Information comes from existing information. It never creates itself. Without new information being created, evolution is impossible. Evolution has a troubling information problem.

(Read the latest science on the subject: Without Excuse by Werner Gitt, a description of the scientific Laws of Universal Information. See also: Information Theory Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4. Here is another interesting article.) More is constantly being learned about information and about the Second Law of Thermodynamics. Evolutionists tend to hide in the weeds of the unknown with an argument from ignorance: "If you can't prove, by empirical science, that evolution is impossible, then it happened." By empirical science alone, we can only prove probabilities. The probabilities show the Big-Bang-Billions-of-Years-No-Flood-Molecules-to-Man story to be a bazaar hypothesis, a story that is so improbable that it should not be considered. However, empirical science is not a tool that can prove anything to be true or false absolutely. For absolute proof, we have revelation. (See Basic and Concise Guide to Practical, Useful Logic and Reasoning). God says that He created everything. He is the One Who enforces the laws of nature. He is the One Who will judge all of us in the end. We know that because we know Him presonally through the indwelling Presence of Jesus Christ and the moment-by-moment instruction of the Holy Spirit.

Even if these problems didn't exist and even if evolution were possible, it would still be a fable, a story based on arbitrary assumptions and rationalizations. It would still be a lie. God says that it didn't happen. God says He created everything is six days.

The Evolutionists say that unborn children are living human beings but not real persons, but the creationists say they are real persons. Not too many years ago, the Evolutionists claimed that people who were not Caucasian were not real persons.

The Evolutionists say there is no real truth, but creationists say that there is real truth.
The Evolutionists say that there is no such thing as a lie, since there is no absolute truth, but creationists say that there are lies and there is truth. The Evolutionists say that one person's truth is not the same as another person's truth, but the creationists say that God determines what truth is and is not impressed by human interpretations. If there is not real truth, then the statement, "There is no real truth," is not really true.

The Evolutionists say that there is no such thing as absolute right and wrong, but creationists say that there is such a thing as absolute right and wrong.

These are just a few examples of the differences. The same type of disagreement goes on between the same two groups concerning global warming, the hole in the ozone layer, Communism, Socialism, Relativism, Post-modernism, Chaos Theory, all the ugly ways that the worldly people twist the holy and beautiful things that God reserved for marriage, belief in God, belief in Jesus, and the list could go on. Who is telling the truth? Is it hard to tell? I don't think so. For those who sit in the counsel of the ungodly, they will have no excuse.

Will both groups be caught in a lie from time to time? I think that it would be obvious that either group could be caught in a lie, but one group is continually lying on purpose, and one group is mostly telling the truth because they think that there is an overriding reason to tell the truth. The conflicts could not exist if both sides were being truthful. They would be much closer together.

Who is telling the truth? For which group would it be important to tell the truth: the group of people who believe there is truth or the group of people who don't believe in truth?

Those who don't believe in truth, the Evolutionists, say that they are more likely to tell the truth because they are not bound to such things as absolute truth, which makes them more truthful. Does that make sense to you?

Those who believe in truth, the creation scientists, say that they are more likely to tell the truth, because they believe that God hates lying. They believe that lying is a sin. Doesn't it make more sense that the creationists are going to tell the truth?

The Secular religion to which the Evolutionists belong does not require truth. It teaches that truth is relative. It teaches that great minds create "truth." It teaches that great intellects have the ability hold as true several conflicting thoughts at the same time.

For one who follows the dogma of Secularism, lying is not sin. In fact, great liars are held in high regard.

Who will be telling lies and who will be telling the truth? You can certainly know. It is easy to see. Only those who want to be willingly ignorant will not be able to answer this question.

One other point, the Human Mind is not to be trusted. God didn't create the Human Mind to operate outside of the anointing of the Holy Spirit. God designed the Human Mind to work correctly only when the Holy Spirit is flowing through it.

Numbers 15:39... and that ye seek not after your own mind and your own ability to observe, with which you used to commit fornication:

Rom 8:7 because the carnal mind is enmity against God, for it is not subject to the Law of God, neither indeed can it be.

Psalm 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.

Jeremiah 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness to him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Proverbs 28:26 He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool: but whoso walks wisely, he shall be delivered.

Jeremiah 23:16 Thus says the LORD of hosts, Hearken not to the words of the prophets that prophesy to you: they make you vain: they speak a vision of their own heart, and not out of the mouth of the LORD. They say still to them that despise me, The LORD hath said, Ye shall have peace; and they say to every one that walks after the imagination of his own heart, No evil shall come upon you.

James 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.

The arbitrary assumptions and insane rationalizations of ungodly people censor out any information that supports the existence of God.  They set up a web of rules to filter out God.  They will only accept those things that conform to Naturalism, materialism, and uniformitarianism.  Naturalism claims that God does nothing.  Materialism claims that there is no God or spiritual realm.  Uniformitarianism claims that there was not creation and that there was no violent worldwide flood, as the Bible and numerous other historical accounts record.  Whatever they observe that does not conform to this complex filter is censored.  The way that it is censored can take several forms.  The ungodly may boldly proclaim that, though the data appears to support God's version and refute the version of the ungodly, yet it still must be interpreted to mean just the opposite of what it does mean.  A backup method that ungodly people use is to prophecy that in the future, science will be able to explain what they see as an anomaly.  If that fails, they will hide the data, set it aside, or lie to keep the public from knowing the truth.  The data clearly demolishes the story of the ungodly and clearly supports the reality of the Creator God, His Bible, and His abiding Presence in His people.  When confronted with the obvious, a closed-minded ungodly person says, "I can't understand it."  They are willingly ignorant because they refuse to hold God in their knowledge.  The reality is that these people, for whatever reason, don't what to know the Creator.  They don't want to truly know Jesus, their Creator.

 

 



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