How does rationalism enable people to put across their ideas by providing false proof?

How can we know anything about anything

To try to explain truth to him who loves it not is but to give him more plentiful material for misinterpretation. George Macdonald

Do we have to make a choice between science and the Bible?

NO!

That is NOT where the problem is, but that is what everyone seems to want to talk about.

Take science as an example. How can we know anything about the created material world around us?

How can we know anything from what we can see using natural sciences?

We all see the same things in the material world, but we don't come to the same answers.

Why is that?

How can we know anything about the Bible and what it teaches? Every person believes different things about the Bible and how it should be read.

Why is that?

Same scientific facts. Different answers.

Same Bible. Different answers.

Why is that?

The true question is this: How do we come to our answers that we get from what we can see through science or what we can read in the Bible?

How do we think about what we see using science or what we read in the Bible?

How do we analyze what we have seen and read?

How do we interpret what we have seen and read?

We use logic, but logic always has a foundation. Jesus talked about building on the Rock. That Rock is Jesus Christ. He is the true foundation. There are also the false foundations of the ungodly.

An example might help.

Question: Why do you believe in evolution?

Answer: Because my science teacher told me that evolution is scientific fact.

Question: Why do you believe your science teacher?

Answer: because he agrees with the textbook he assigned us to read.

Now, we have asked, "Why?" twice.

If we continued to ask, "Why?" we would come down to the foundation of this person's thoughts.

When we get down to the foundations, there are no more questions that can be answered. So where to the foundations come from?

There are three possibilities.

things that we make up, pulled from the air
demonic lies
divine revelation

Question: Why do you believe in creation?

Answer: Because God revealed this to me. He spoke to me through the Bible and gave me His faith so that I could believe Him.

See how quickly we got to the foundation. This is a belief that has a foundation that is solid and that cannot be moved.

In reality, the things that we make up, that are pulled from the air, are actually from demons and all the lies of demons spring from the prince of demons, Satan. So these are one and the same.

Divine revelation comes from the Almighty, Creator, God, Jesus Christ. So there are only two choices, but how do we know there are only two choices? Because God has revealed this truth to us.

The question then is how do we tell the difference between the revelation that comes from God and the lies of Satan?

The answer is that everyone who sincerely wants to do the will of God will know.

Jesus said, "If you really want to obey God, you will know if what I teach comes from God or from me"

The rejection of the revelation that comes from God is not an intellectual problem. It is a moral problem.

Jesus said, "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and you shall find; knock, and it shall be opened to you: For everyone who asks receives; and he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks it shall be opened." *

Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone? Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent? If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to those who ask him? Matthew 7:7-11 *

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. You can set the truth before someone, but you can't make anyone believe those things that they don't want to submit to. They have to want to obey God.

How frequently it is brought to our attention that nothing good can be done if the will is wrong! Reason alone fails to justify itself. Richard M. Weaver

Jesus said, "You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free" (John 8:32)

"If we are not prepared to buy the truth at the cost of our own humbling we shall not receive it"

Lies appear to have no price upon them. They seem cheap and they abound everywhere. But for the truth there is always an obvious price to pay.

"[God] has set a day when He will judge all the world's people with fairness. And He has chosen the man Jesus to do the judging for Him. God has given proof of this to all of us by raising Jesus from death" (Acts 17:31).

"There is a judge for the one who rejects Me [Jesus] and does not accept My words; that very word which I spoke will condemn him at the last day" (John 12:48)

That also stands for every person who speaks the utterances of Jesus. When we hear them, we hear Jesus Christ, and we either accept or reject. Every person who follows Jesus Christ is commanded to only speak His utterances and not their own.

"When we love others, we know that we belong to the truth, and we feel at ease in the presence of God" (1 John 3:19)

Ravi Zacharias did two open forums in a university. On the second night, one man told him that he had brought two Atheists in the night before who said that the arguments presented were so strong that they could not contend with them, but they were going to remain Atheists because that is what they prefer to be true.

In another case of just listening to an unbeliever and drawing out his reasoning, the unbeliever finally came to his foundations.

They turned out to be assumptions that were pulled from the air. When asked why he believed his basic assumption, the unbeliever looked startled and blurted out, "I guess I'm making the whole thing up." It was quite a revelation to him since he hadn't even known that he had any assumptions. However, he decided to remain an Atheist because he didn't want God to rule over him.

Rationalism

We are using the myth of Evolutionism as an example of false proof supplied by Rationalism. Rationalism is a religious doctrine that enables other false doctrines and false religions. It is the idea that, "It popped into my head, so it must be true." Sometimes, it’s shocking what people will fall for. The only thing that can be said about that is that the farther you go away from God, the farther you move from the source of all wisdom. Some evolution-scientists think that they only have to keep making up fabrications until they can finally find some proof for evolution. Some have given up hope and are just fighting to keep their jobs. Evolution isn't science.

Confirmation bias keeps Evolutionists from seeing reality. "Attributing the design of the box jelly’s eyes to a feature created by our Creator God does not mean we just accept and move on. As a biologist, I am also intrigued as to how the vision processes of the box jellies function as it helps us further understand the world around us. God told Adam to have dominion over and subdue the world He created. That requires us to do research like that conducted by Garm and his associates and I compliment them on their fine work. The only difference is that I see the results as pointing to God where they see a paradox they cannot explain because they are blinded by their make-believe Godless religion known as evolution." source On the other hand, real faith is rock solid.

They had thought the proof would come,
That they could prove there was no God,
And that they need not serve the One.
The mighty One Who loves them so.
They thought that they need not obey,
That they could forge out their own way,
That they could do what they desired.
Yes, This had been the hope of some.
To prove, somehow, there was no God.
To prove, somehow, there was no God.

They had thought they would do well,
With axioms, they could do well;
These axioms, which they could tell,
These stories, just assumptions, lies,
If they could add in any lies,
That, then, they could adjust the facts,
And prove, somehow, there was no God.
And prove, somehow, there was no God.

And so they cast about to find,
A story that might come to mind.
An axiom that they might dream,
A lie to help them work their scheme,
They would assume no God exists,
And that no spirits could exist.
Nor any thing of spiritual.
They would assume material
Is all there is. And natural,
Is all that moves the physical.
And prove, somehow, there was no God.
And prove, somehow, there was no God.

Instead, they found that what they saw,
Has proved that there are certain laws.
And observation told them why
False logic left them high and dry.
They found there was no set of lies,
No set of lies that could deny
The God, creation, and the flood.
The God, creation, and the flood.

Eventually, there came a day
No set of lies could show a way.
Could force the facts to all line up,
The facts they knew could not line up
With all the theories that they love,
With all the theories that they love.

Now God has shown them all to be
Sad liars speaking foolishly.
They thought that they would help their cause,
But now, have shown their theory's flaws.
They proved that God had made it all,
That He, from nothing, made it all.
These are the facts they choose to hate.
These are the facts they choose to hate.

Observing that, which now exists,
There is so much that now exists
That gives us clues to view the past,
And, so, we now can know at last,
The geologic column shows
The flood and how God judges those
Who won't obey and walk in sin,
And there, in rock, God's fingerprint.
And many other things we see,
And many other things we see.
These are the facts they hate to know.
These are the facts they hate to know.

And it is plain that it would be
Impossible that what we see,
All things could not have made themselves.
Could not have ever made themselves.
By much research, they now can know:
The dream they loved, should really go.
The dream of evolution's claim,
This dream could never, now, explain,
It violates what we have seen.
It violates what we have seen.

In former years, some have been fooled.
In ignorance, they had been fooled.
But, now, the facts expose the lie,
A theory that was just a lie,
And in the light of day it's seen
To be a foolish, silly dream.
These are the things they choose to hate.
These are the things they choose to hate.

And also, we have seen and know,
And all experiments have shown,
That even the most simple life,
The small, self-reproducing life,
Is far past what we comprehend.
And so it is the time to end
This theory we cannot defend.
These are the things they choose to hate.
These are the things they choose to hate.

It made them mad. It made them wild.
They proved a baby is a child,
A pure sweet baby, when conceived.
And not what they had first believed.
The money made on killing them
Was worth the shame of what they'd done.
Hard businessmen won't bear the cost
When billions, billions might be lost.
They sure must buy a law or four,
Keep money flowing through the door.
But, now, the facts are plainly seen.
But, now, the facts are plainly seen.

So, what is the reaction since?
Have they now turned or been convinced?
Or have they changed their minds at all?
Or are we talking to a wall.
They know, but willingly ignore,
And ignorance is at the core.
Ignoring facts, they stumble on.
These willingly are ignorant.
Though, now, the facts are plainly seen.
Though, now, the facts are plainly seen.

God will not force Himself on you,
He's always there. He's there for you,
But, when rejected, never will
Force His great love on anyone.
Those who have chosen, now, to be,
In ignorance, most willingly,
And who have chosen not to see,
Nor glorify the King of kings,
He has allowed their fate to be
Controlled by their own evil minds.
For every person's carnal mind,
Does wickedness, deceitfully,
Beyond the point that we can know.
Beyond the point that we can know.

So many have now lifted up,
This carnal mind, this dirty cup.
But it is carnal. It will die.
It keeps us captive to a lie.
Though many will its worth now praise,
It has no power, cannot save,
And, by illusions, does enslave.
And, by illusions, does enslave.

The human mind is fully filled
With all unrighteousness and sin.
And God turns those who will not yield,
Receive His love and come to Him,
He turns them over to themselves.
These are the ones who have rebelled,
And sought their own in everything,
Are then, enslaved to their own minds,
And they, full of unrighteousness,
Involve themselves in carnal sins,
And wickedness, and coveting.
Maliciousness, and envying,
And murder, and debate, deceit.
So when they try to do the right
They cannot help but to destroy
The very ones they try to help.
The very ones they try to help.

They whisper lies and then accuse.
They talk behind the back of those.
These are the ones who hate their God,
And openly rebel in sin.
They mock His laws and, so, mock Him,
And openly speak evil things,
Of Him Who gave His life for them,
They act in spite, as boasters, proud.
Their parents, they do not obey.
Inventors of such evil things.
Inventors of such evil things.

When they have drifted far away,
Away from God, Who is the source,
Of all the wisdom that exists,
When they have drifted, thus, away,
They never will have wisdom then.
They will not come to understand,
For understanding comes one way.
Obeying God, this is the way.
Obeying God, this is the way.

They break their promises and cheat,
And though they speak and sing of love,
They do not mean the selfless love,
But only mean immoral acts.
And when compassion is their theme,
they walk instead in envying,
And selfishness, and malice reigns.
They say they love the poor so much,
That they are willing now to take,
To take some other person's wealth,
and send it over to the poor.
They're careful in their so-called love,
And take great pains just to make sure,
It never touches what they own,
Unless they can promote themselves,
For these are the unmerciful.
For these are the unmerciful.

All who refuse to honor God,
Who do know about His law,
But who have chosen to ignore,
To willingly be ignorant,
They know that God does judge the wrong.
When any nation has been blessed,
But turns away from serving God,
Then God will judge that nation more
Than those who never knew the Lord.
And yet, God's hand is outstretched still,
He holds out hope until the end.
He holds out hope until the end.

The leading of the Holy One,
If we will but submit ourselves,
If we will let His mighty power
Direct the way and take control,
Then He will change us and transform.
His love is awesome and it's power
Will show us if we yield to Him.
He loves us so. He loves us so.
He loves us so. He loves us so.

Copyright Bob and Kathy Stenson, Freeware. Use it freely.

Numbers 15:39... and that ye seek not after your own heart and your own eyes, after which ye use to go a whoring:

Romans 8:7 because the carnal mind is enmity against God, for it is not subject to the Law of God, neither indeed can it be.

Jeremiah 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Proverbs 28:26 He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool: but whoso walks wisely, he shall be delivered.

Jeremiah 23:16 Thus says the LORD of hosts, Hearken not unto the words of the prophets that prophesy unto you: they make you vain: they speak a vision of their own heart, and not out of the mouth of the LORD. They say still unto them that despise me, The LORD hath said, Ye shall have peace; and they say unto every one that walks after the imagination of his own heart, No evil shall come upon you.

James 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.

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