Questions and Answers: What About the Kangaroo in Australia Only? Does That Prove Evolution?
How can we know anything about anything
To try to explain truth to him who loves it not is but to give him more plentiful material for misinterpretation. George Macdonald
Do we have to make a choice between science and the Bible?
NO!
That is NOT where the problem is, but that is what everyone seems to want to talk about.
Take science as an example.
How can we know anything about the created material world around us?
How can we know anything from what we can see using natural sciences?
We all see the same things in the material world,
but we don't come to the same answers.
Why is that?
How can we know anything about the Bible and what it teaches?
Every person believes different things about the Bible and how it should be read.
Why is that?
Same scientific facts. Different answers.
Same Bible. Different answers.
Why is that?
The true question is this: How do we come to our answers that we get
from what we can see through science
or what we can read in the Bible?
How do we think about what we see using science or what we read in the Bible?
How do we analyze what we have seen and read?
How do we interpret what we have seen and read?
We use logic, but logic always has a foundation. Jesus talked about building on the Rock.
That Rock is Jesus Christ. He is the true foundation.
There are also the false foundations of the ungodly.
An example might help.
Question: Why do you believe in evolution?
Answer: Because my science teacher told me that evolution is scientific fact.
Question: Why do you believe your science teacher?
Answer: because he agrees with the textbook he assigned us to read.
Now, we have asked, "Why?" twice.
If we continued to ask, "Why?" we would come down to the foundation of this person's thoughts.
When we get down to the foundations, there are no more questions that can be answered.
So where to the foundations come from?
There are three possibilities.
- things that we make up, pulled from the air
- demonic lies
- divine revelation
Question: Why do you believe in creation?
Answer: Because God revealed this to me. He spoke to me through the Bible and gave me His faith
so that I could believe Him.
See how quickly we got to the foundation.
This is a belief that has a foundation that is solid and that cannot be moved.
In reality, the things that we make up, that are pulled from the air,
are actually from demons and all the lies of demons spring from the prince of demons, Satan.
So these are one and the same.
Divine revelation comes from the Almighty, Creator, God, Jesus Christ.
So there are only two choices, but how do we know there are only two choices?
Because God has revealed this truth to us.
The question then is how do we tell the difference between the revelation that comes from God
and the lies of Satan?
The answer is that everyone who sincerely wants to do the will of God will know.
Jesus said, "If you really want to obey God, you will know if what I teach comes from God or from me"
The rejection of the revelation that comes from God is not an intellectual problem.
It is a moral problem.
Jesus said, "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and you shall find; knock, and it shall be opened to you:
For everyone who asks receives; and he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks it shall be opened."
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Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone?
Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent?
If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children,
how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to those who ask him?
Matthew 7:7-11 *
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.
You can set the truth before someone, but you can't make anyone believe
those things that they don't want to submit to.
They have to want to obey God.
How frequently it is brought to our attention that nothing good can be done if the will is wrong! Reason alone fails to justify itself. Richard M. Weaver
Jesus said, "You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free" (John 8:32)
"If we are not prepared to buy the truth at the cost of our own humbling we shall not receive it"
Lies appear to have no price upon them.
They seem cheap and they abound everywhere.
But for the truth there is always an obvious price to pay.
"[God] has set a day when He will judge all the world's people with fairness.
And He has chosen the man Jesus to do the judging for Him.
God has given proof of this to all of us by raising Jesus from death" (Acts 17:31).
"There is a judge for the one who rejects Me [Jesus] and does not accept My words;
that very word which I spoke will condemn him at the last day" (John 12:48)
That also stands for every person who speaks the utterances of Jesus.
When we hear them, we hear Jesus Christ, and we either accept or reject.
Every person who follows Jesus Christ is commanded to only speak His utterances and not their own.
"When we love others, we know that we belong to the truth, and we feel at ease in the presence of God" (1 John 3:19)
Ravi Zacharias did two open forums in a university.
On the second night, one man told him that he had brought two Atheists in the night before
who said that the arguments presented were so strong that they could not contend with them,
but they were going to remain Atheists because that is what they prefer to be true.
In another case of just listening to an unbeliever and drawing out his reasoning,
the unbeliever finally came to his foundations.
They turned out to be assumptions that were pulled from the air.
When asked why he believed his basic assumption,
the unbeliever looked startled and blurted out,
"I guess I'm making the whole thing up."
It was quite a revelation to him since he hadn't even known that he had any assumptions.
However, he decided to remain an Atheist because he didn't want God to rule over him.
Question:
"My Question is about Autralia. Do the very different types of animals found in Australia prove evolution. And/or do they prove that the flood account should not be taken literally. For example it is hard to imagine that animals left off by Noah at Mt. Arrarat would then become isolated on just one continent. Why wouldn't the kangaroo say exist in South America or Africa or the gazelle also exist in Autralia? Especially since current Creationist theory seems to hold that the continents were rapidly seperated during the flood"
Answer:
The question was stated: "My Question is about Autralia. Do the very different types of animals found in Australia prove evolution. And/or do they prove that the flood account should not be taken literally." This is a magician's choice or salesman's choice question, sometimes called a false dichotomy. It presents two choices as if those are the only two choices. It might be better to state this question like this: "Do the very different types of animals found in Australia prove anything about the stories of evolution or the historical account in the Bible about the creation and the flood?" That would be a less biased way to ask the question.
The question continues: "For example it is hard to imagine that animals left off by Noah at Mt. Arrarat would then become isolated on just one continent. Why wouldn't the kangaroo say exist in South America or Africa or the gazelle also exist in Autralia? Especially since current Creationist theory seems to hold that the continents were rapidly seperated during the flood." The real question is whether or not these questions create a problem for any of the competing history. The reality is that these questions do not create a problem for any of the competing concepts of history.
There is no way to know for sure how various animals got to various places. The Bible does not tell us. Science cannot tell us. The fact that Evolutionists or Creationists can't answer any given question does not mean that this works against their position. Sometimes the best answer is, "No human being knows." The secret things belong to God but that which God has revealed belongs to us and to our children.
When the position is impossible when compared to laws of science, such as the Second Law of Thermodynamics, and the impossible scenario hits the root of the position that is taken by a hypothesis such as Evolutionism, then this is a problem. Evolution from very simple living things to very complex living things, for instance, would have to involve a reversal of the Second Law of Thermodynamics, so this is an example of an extreme problem for Evolution. In fact, Evolution should go back to the drawing board until they can find a way to circumvent the Second Law of Thermodynamics by natural means. You can read more about this here: http://seekfind.net/ComplexityInformationAndThe2ndLawOfThermodynamicsShowEvolutionToBeImpossible.html
There are many unanswered questions whenever we try to look back in time and guess what happened. The most reliable way to determine historical events has always been to look at the written record. We may have many man-made stories, but we must hold these stories loosely since the kind of science that is used to test history is different from operational science. If we think that we can make an improvement in an electric motor, we can experiment and test and observe and repeat. There is no way to go back in time and see what happened. When we find dinosaur blood and tissue still intact, all we can say is that we have seen that blood and tissue always break down quickly. We know of no way to make it stay intact for thousands of years let alone millions. And here we see it intact on a fossil that a lot of people think is millions of years old. That is as far as science can go. Science cannot go back in time and see what happened to that dinosaur or see whether it is hundreds or thousands or millions of years old. There is a difference between observation and speculation.
Some people, mostly non-Christians who have never studied the Bible, wrongly think that the Bible states that every kind of animal produces an exact replica of itself and that there is no ability to adapt. This is a bazaar belief in something that is obviously not true. The Bible does speak of adaptation. In addition, the ability of every kind of plant and animal to adapt is obvious. The cell has an amazing computer and an amazing ability to adapt, but only within certain limitations. This is what scientists who have a belief in Evolution and billions of years observe and this is what scientists who believe in creation and the flood observe. Scientists who have a dogmatic belief in Evolution make the assumption that, even though there are very obvious limits to adaptation, if they imagine millions of year, those limitations go away. That is not science of course, but when a person gets so close to a problem, especially under the intense peer pressure in the scientific community to conform to the stories of Evolutionism, they cease to have the ability to discern between observation and story-telling. It happens to the best of us in every area of life.
We also know that natural selection, the tendency of an isolated group of living things to interbreed and end up with less information in their genes, to causes extinction when the limited information in their genes no longer gives them the ability to adapt to changing conditions, leads to extinction. We don't see natural selection causing increasingly complex organisms..
There is no evidence, though millions and perhaps billions of dollars have been spent trying to find evidence, that any information can be added to anything by natural processes. The Second Law of Thermodynamics and Information Theory predict that information is lost over time. That being the case, the original ancestor would have had much more information and ability to adapt than the living things that we see around us at present.
That being said, there is nothing in anything that we can observe or in the Bible that makes it impossible for marsupials, which are found on every continent, to produce the many species that are found, including possums and kangaroos. That means that kangaroos could have come from possums, and possums are found on every continent. What is a species? The surprising answer.
The gazelle not being found in Australia is a particularly weak argument. What would prevent a situation where no gazelle got onto the island of Australia from the mainland? How any animals got between continents is speculative, but there are many possible ways that this could happen.
Whether or not the continents separated rapidly does not in any way stand in the way of other geological shifts that could have eliminated land bridges or other ways for life to move from one place to another. The question says, "Especially since current Creationist theory seems to hold..." What anyone thinks or theorizes has not effect at all on reality.
None of these things are in any way a good argument for Evolutionism.
Here are some links you may want to visit for a more complete answer.
http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/aig-c006.html
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http://www.creationdefense.org/34.htm
http://www.icr.org/article/watches-wombats/
http://www.icr.org/article/dna-study-offers-new-take-marsupial/
http://www.icr.org/article/did-landscapes-evolve/
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